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BearCountryGG - Thursday Feb 22, 2018
(Non negotiable dieting rather I like it or not)
Weight: 222.2

Up and drinking coffee.........just appears to be a head/chest cold.......annoying but not life stopping today.....drippy, congested but still functioning.  Will still be able to function today thankfully ...2 boxes arriving today so will stay home anyway...so good day to get some sorting done.  We have a neighbor man who is literally trying to take us over...he is in his 70's and comes over and tells us what to do...he arrives with his tractor and sand and proceeds to do what he wants here...goes into the barn and moves things around...he actually gets a chair and tells Denny to sit down....he will take over...LOL...I don't know if he has alzheimers or if he has always been that way but we don't want to hurt his feelings yet...this IS OUR HOUSE....he drives by and stops at the driveway hoping to see one of us....I know he is lonely...but he has already pulled the same things on the neighbors...who have apparently told him he is crazy....(his words)...........I seriously don't know rather to feel sorry for him...or be afraid of him.

Goal to stay under 1,500 calories

coffee, biscuit and sausage gravy

cliff bar

Whole wheat spaghetti with meatballs/tomato sauce

swedish fish gummies

blueberries

perrier water

V8 vegetable juice

tuna and crackers

 

Progress as of today: 33.2 lbs lost so far, only 77.2 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 02/22/2018:
Sounds like he means well and is trying to be helpful in his own way. Hope you feel better soon.

bearcountrygg on 02/22/2018:
He does like to give things away...but he will never let us give him anything....I do think he means well...but boy is he bossy....LOL


horn_of_plenty on 02/22/2018:
that neighbor sounds nuts, maybe contact police no?

bearcountrygg on 02/22/2018:
I do think he has mental issues...but he hasn't threatened us in any way....just seems to want to run everyone on the street......he isn't healthy and says he is ready to die...his only child died of a heart attack less than 2 years ago...I do think there is depression at play....so far we are just tolerating him but D is getting mighty tired of being bossed around...LOL.....we actually avoid him when we can.....last summer D mentioned to him that I was getting a new car...he told D that I had to get silver...D said I wanted Blue...and the guy threw a fit ( I got blue and he didn't talk to us for 3 months...LOL)



BearCountryGG - Wednesday Feb 21, 2018
(Non negotiable dieting rather I like it or not)
Weight: 222.2

Lovely day...NOT.......Woke up sick with laryngitis and cold symptoms and that explains the swollen glands..hot flashes and chills.and flooding is a thing!

Furiously pumping water from the buildings...and the neighbors are doing the same....flooding on top of ice...interesting..........and now sick.............UGH!  

Going back to bed...somehow I don't thing staying within calories today will be a problem.

Still feeling crummy.....todays cals under 1,500

Just ate what sounded good

coffee

waffle with spray butter and syrup

cheese and crackers

100 calorie pack

 Hot chocolate

sparkling mineral water

lots of sleeping and sitting around

Flooding still an issue...we now have a pond that we never had before...and the next door neighbor keeps pumping the same water over and over again at his house.....he doesn't get it...in the spring we will all need to get some excavation done...so this doesn't happen again..had this place for 13 years and this is a first......

 

Progress as of today: 33.2 lbs lost so far, only 77.2 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 02/21/2018:
Hope you feel better as the day goes along. Sorry to hear about the flooding. Rest and feel better.

bearcountrygg on 02/21/2018:
Looks like a problem bug .....flooding still going on.


horn_of_plenty on 02/21/2018:
Get well soon BCGG - being sick is so stinky.

i'm trying to continue to feel well...big change again for me regarding work location which is definitely stressing me out. just a lot of change and my legs are beginning to burn and just my whole body feels tired...waiting to take a few days off in March and when April comes, i'll also take some days off then.

bearcountrygg on 02/21/2018:
Oh boy...another work move again eh? Maybe this one will be nicer. And right..being sick is a pain.



BearCountryGG - Tuesday Feb 20, 2018
(Non negotiable dieting rather I like it or not)
Weight: 222.2

Well...everything here is covered with ice.....accidents all over and schools closed.......driveway is an ice covered hill...lovely...I can't wait for spring.  

Yesterday went very smoothly...and I left calories for an evening snack in case I needed it...and I did...so itall worked out well.

Breakfast

coffee = 9

1 egg = 91

2 cinnamon bread toasted = 160

spray butter = 0

schwans sausage patty = 180

A.M. SNACK = Kashi oatmeal cookie =130

LUNCH

Peas and carrots = 110

Parmesan crisps ( 100% parmesan) = 320

Pineapple = 76

DINNER

Bagel= 220

butter = 71

beef tips = 125

peanut butter = 250

Pouring rain here all day....and the place is flooding....the house is ok...but the barn is only about an inch from flooding so we are pomping water to lower ground...neighbors garage is flooded and the septic tank truck they called for to pump out their garage...came here by mistake.....things could get messy here.........the rain keeps coming........lots of businesses sitting in water right now......really odd for February.

Progress as of today: 33.2 lbs lost so far, only 77.2 lbs to go!

horn_of_plenty on 02/20/2018:
We only get that ice occasionally..not even every Winter. stay safe BCGG!

so nice to leave calories for eating like 2hrs before bed i like to do.


bearcountrygg on 02/20/2018:
Lucky you!!! I hate ice! Leaving calories for an evening snack worked really well...it prevented a binge...and if I wasn't hungry it could just have been forgotten.


happy-1 on 02/20/2018:
Ice is scary. Climbed a glacier once... very slowly.

bearcountrygg on 02/20/2018:
Yes it is...last winter I fell going down the front steps and smashed my face into the ice....the next day I saw bruises in places I didn't even know I hit.

bearcountrygg on 02/20/2018:
I can't even imagine climbing a glacier....amazing!



BearCountryGG - Monday Feb 19, 2018
(Non negotiable dieting rather I like it or not)
Weight: 222.2

I spent much of yesterday researching things that I find myself rebelling against.  I read a lot about doing things that I should do...but don't do.  I read about doing things that I DON'T WANT TO DO!  And why I let myself get away with it.  I'm clearly not holding myself accountable.  I say I want to weigh  a certain number...but I don't do what it takes to get there in any kind of a timely fashion.

And an extra special timely phone call came in......it cleared things up even further. .......I do believe in timely interventions that arrive when we most need them..........one son called and immediatly after I said hello......he blurted out something about healthy eating, his recent weight loss and his wifes glowing test results ( she has a serious life long condition called dermatomyositis)...and had a test a week ago assessing her stomach inflamation which is now gone.

Then I get up this morning and read how Happy is changing things...and HOP is looking for a change......and I think it may just be the boost I need to get my head on straight............

 

The time has arrived that I expect more from myself rather I like it or not, rather it is fun or comfortable or not...but because it is necessary and is non negotiable.  No more whining from me.....

I am now weighing and measuring my food...I'm also counting calories.....and will hold my calories per day to 1,500 max...with 1,400 being even better.  No more watching it all day and then falling apart at night and stuffing with junk....from now on I drink water, coffee, tea or a no calorie drink if I need something at night, and am still hungry.

Time to get tough with myself...and not likeing it doesn't  matter anymore.  Kicking myself in the butt and making it happen...then I can figure it all out when I get there, just need to get there first.  No bad foods...just a daily calorie allowance.

 

BREAKFAST

2 cups coffee = 9

yogurt = 90

1 schwans sausage patty = 180

Multiple vitamin

turmeric, 

Extra C

Omegas

Zinc

LUNCH

1/2 cup rice  = 102

1/2 Cup Schwans beef tips in gravy = 125

2 cups pineapple = 152

DINNER

1 ounce mixed vegetables = 18

1/3 cup mac and cheese = 130

raisin bread toasted = 142

banana = 109

EVENING SNACK

3 Kashi oatmeal cookies = 390

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                   1448 calories for day

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                    1,058 calories for the day

Progress as of today: 33.2 lbs lost so far, only 77.2 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 02/19/2018:
To your credit, you have lost 33 lbs and it has not even been a year yet. I think that is FANTASTIC!

bearcountrygg on 02/19/2018:
Thank you Maria....I think I can do better though!


horn_of_plenty on 02/19/2018:
With you - I think you are very set on wanting to be a certain number - I say forget about the number for now and start by enjoying the process it's going to take to get there - Igor me it has always taken well over a year to get results and learn to keep them. And you are right now is a critical time for me where I'm going to have to be a little more accountable than I've been so I don't continue to gain weight now -

bearcountrygg on 02/19/2018:
You are right!!!


Donkey on 02/19/2018:
I applaud your new endeavor. Sometimes you just have to get tough with yourself.

bearcountrygg on 02/20/2018:
Yup...had to kick my own butt.....LOL


happy-1 on 02/19/2018:
Here I'll post more later, but the idea of a habit tracker is that you make the habits that support your overall goal the things you track in a "don't break the chain" 30 day format. So you want to lose 2lbs in 30 days and you have smaller things you need to do every day to make that happen...

I drank a gallon of water today I kept all simple carbs eaten today smaller than my fist I ate 10% fewer calories than I burned Etc.

Each statement gets a line and 30 boxes as you add it to the sheet.

For each day a statement is true, you cross off a box on the calendar for that one line. As you find more things you need to do/ not do you add them to the tracker. Eventually you will get to the point where the habits you built one day at a time are your second nature and the goal you have achieved is the byproduct of your newer, stronger self.

When a habit becomes second nature it comes off the list. Like taking vyvanse and meds as soon as I woke up was a real struggle, so it was a habit it took me almost 6mos to build. When I stop forgetting, I will take it off my list. I have already taken off making my bed in the am and never coming home with less than half a tank ofgas.

https://lifehacker.com/281626/jerry-seinfelds-productivity-secret

bearcountrygg on 02/20/2018:
Sounds like an excellent idea!


happy-1 on 02/20/2018:
Btw... really glad your "kids" are healthier and validating your efforts at healthy eating. Sounds like a good dynamic and supportive effort on his part.

bearcountrygg on 02/20/2018:
yes...he tries...LOL



BearCountryGG - Sunday Feb 18, 2018

Weight: 222.2

Bright sun shining on the snow today.....hoping that it melts the ice under it.......march is truly days away and I'm ready to get outside.  Getting lots done today.....making organizing a priority and keeping busy.  Combining so many households 3 years ago...brought lots of stuff in that needs some decisions made...the ever ready bag in the car is getting filled once again....and the next trip to town will include donations.....maybe I can get another 30 gallon bag filled by then...I'm hoping.  

Opened the freezer door yesterday and 2 things fell out on the garage floor..........that thing needs serious attention today too....along with the ongoing mountain of laundry.   

 

 

Progress as of today: 33.2 lbs lost so far, only 77.2 lbs to go!

happy-1 on 02/19/2018:
Good on you! Declutter and free your mind for new experiences and adventures!

bearcountrygg on 02/19/2018:
TY


horn_of_plenty on 02/19/2018:
I am so happy the Winter is passing :) it's gone quite quickly this year !


horn_of_plenty on 02/19/2018:
I am so happy the Winter is passing :) it's gone quite quickly this year !



BearCountryGG - Saturday Feb 17, 2018

Weight: 224.4

Spent most of yesterday getting rid of a computer virus........It's funny how some time without a computer...( and even a phone when I forget to keep it with me momentarily)....makes me feel so helpless.......I grew up in the times of party lines......and home phones only...I remember when my Dad came home and told me that G.M.  had a computer and it took up a whole room....I remember when D. came home with a bag phone from work...that was broken...and how shocked I was with it's existance at all.... .....and now I am so dependant...on both things within arms reach at all times.  Life used to be so different......we were talking and reminiscing yesterday.....and what came out of that was that in our day...D. had matches in his pocket in grade school...because at home he was responsible for burning the trash.........high schoolers had trucks in the parking lot with a gun in a rack in the rear window for hunting....and yet...no one ever thought of using either those matches or guns to kill classmates...or anyone for that matter.....In my dads childhood back in the 30's and 40's...the style for boys in his city was a pair of boots that contained a pocket for a knife...he coveted those...but his family was too poor to get them for him...and he never stopped talking about those...D had a knife in grade school that he whittled sticks with, he had that in his pocket in grade school   and never considered stabbing someone.  

During my childhood the go to diet plate at the dimestore snack counter and any restaurant...was simple...it was a letuce leaf with cottage cheese and a canned peach......and that is what dieters ate....and in my recollection....we were never obsessed with dieting..because when we added a few pounds we went to the diet plate until we lost them......we didn't  obsess or count calories.......and today...canned peaches are definately not diet foods....yet they  worked......because we knew instinctively that when we cut quantity and choices...we lost weight......and I personally miss those days........we survived...we thrived...we were relaxed and happy....and today...it is so stressful and different.....

And disecting that diet plate is interesting...it contained cottage cheese for protein, fat and calcium, the peach swam in sugar before it hit the plate ( we had no low fat or sugar free canned fruit in those days)...and then that lowly iceberg lettuce leaf........and we quickly lost weight.  We knew to eat less and to limit our choices temporarily....not for life....just until the weight comes off...and then it was life and eating as usual....and people didn't wait until they were many pounds overweight...they started that regimine when they were up 10 pounds or less....there was no yoyoing then...and in fact the only diets commercially were pills ( which eneded up getting some people addicted to them).......the diet plate was the go too answer........but no one made money on that.....there were no commercials...or diet centers to go to....no books even....just the diet plate........so easy......so inexpensive, so simple.....and I have to wonder...I for one wonder why and how I ever got caught up in the dieting merry go round.......when I weighed 125...I went to WW for the first time...and they debated as to if I was even elegible to join because I weighed 125 at 5 foot 4....and the dieting habit was set in motion.....

I think it was good for me to have a day to reflect....I think I have made life too difficult by counting calories and feeling guity about what I ate...and what I didn't eat...and what diet book I was reading...and joining WW 30 times and succeeding only once.  Buying nutrisystem and slim fast...and joining the Weight Loss Center which allowed me 400 calories per day...and monitored me for ketosis......I know that in my life...I have been a person that basically conformed....I had my morals which I maintain, I have my lifestyle and I do what needs to be done....but when it comes to food...I rebel....my Mother used to say she didn't want anyone telling her what to eat.......she ate the diet plate.....and never counted calories....it was quick and easy and she tolerated that...but no other diet.....and she controlled her weight that way.....but...there was no money to be made that way...so it went out of favor...and dieting became a money maker........sooooo

So.........I've decided to put the fitday disc away......and I put the ww calculater away...and the diet books....and I'm going to even try to forget what I eat each day.......dieting makes me fat....rebelling against dieting makes me fat........overeating makes me fat and thinking about dieting makes me obsessed which in turn makes me rebel....knowing this...........tells me that I have to get off the diet train...it makes me fat.

That said.....I really enjoy this group........and I'm not going anywhere...I love to read your stories...and see what you are eating and I enjoy commenting on your lives......I'll be here,...in a different capacity though...I will try to not talk about what I eat...or even what I weigh.............I have to take the power away from food.....

Bless anyone who has the fortitude to read this until the end......You are a wonderful group of friends!!!!!!!

Progress as of today: 31 lbs lost so far, only 79.4 lbs to go!

Donkey on 02/17/2018:
I'm glad that you are not leaving! I appreciate your feedback, and I like to hear about your days and weather and thoughts and such.

Your new approach is very interesting. I totally get what you mean about dieting making you fat. That's one reason why I wanted to get away from the protein powder shakes I was having for breakfast. Real food is best. Have some back-ups for those "off the deep end" days - e.g. 100 calorie popcorn packs... Maybe the deep end isn't an issue for you. Just saying, for an example.

I think it's important to remember that these things, like WW, a FitBit, etc. -- they are all tools to accomplish a goal. Once the "tools" start becoming "rules", then it's time to put them away.

bearcountrygg on 02/17/2018:
It is funny how I can toe the line on everything else in life...but not food....I become such a rebel...maybe it's just the one thing that I allow myself to mess up...not sure...but it is a game I need to stop playing. I do have the 100 cal packs...and I will remember to use them.


happy-1 on 02/20/2018:
Lol, read Donkey's comment and panicked for a sec that you are bailing on DD! Glad to hear you are not.

"So.........I've decided to put the fitday disc away......and I put the ww calculater away...and the diet books....and I'm going to even try to forget what I eat each day.......dieting makes me fat....rebelling against dieting makes me fat........overeating makes me fat and thinking about dieting makes me obsessed which in turn makes me rebel....knowing this...........tells me that I have to get off the diet train...it makes me fat."

That's pretty much how I felt a couple of years ago when I started working on my weight... I just decided not to do anything temporary than I couldn't easily do any day and every day. I tried explaining that to the lady I saw the movie with yesterday... she's going to the "Camp Transformation Center" where they want you to lose 20lbs in 6 weeks so you get your $500 back. I didn't want to go there because I didn't want to do anything temporary I couldn't keep doing every day.



BearCountryGG - Thursday Feb 15, 2018
(Intuitive eating in moderation, calorie counting)
Weight: 224.4

Woke up feeling a lot better today.....Had a amazon prime pantry order arrive yesterday with a open bottle of lysol kitchen cleaner on top...leaking over everything......I will say....with their online chat...it was all resolved...and they are giving me a refund....( why in the world would the person that packed that box LAY a bottle of lysol on it's side on top of a box full of food and toiletries with a loose top ??)    Wake up call for me.....never place an order with food and cleaners together again!!!

After a carb heavy day yesterday I still wanted a  cheese bagel this morning...so I did have it...with scrambled egg and coffee........and butter.......and then an hour later..I realized.....it really wasn't the bagel I wanted...it was the cheese and the butter .....I need calcium.....so I will be digging deeper with the cravings to figure out WHY I am craving certain things......it may just be a salt craving or fat or spicy......taking foods at face value may be too simplified..........

Breakfast

cheese bagel with butter, scrambled egg, coffee

Late Lunch = a lasagna in the oven...will be ready about 3:30

The late lunch lasgana was filling...I'm still full...so no more eating most likely....did need a little sugar this afternoon to bring the glucose up

Progress as of today: 31 lbs lost so far, only 79.4 lbs to go!

horn_of_plenty on 02/15/2018:
sorry to hear about the delivery blunder. glad you are getting a refund! will they resend your order?

bearcountrygg on 02/15/2018:
No...they gave me a choice...resend order or refund plus a credit of $5.99 on next order. I decided on the refund and credit figuring that the next order would probably be packed the same way....( leaking bottle on top). No more mixin my orders of food, and cleaning supplies.



BearCountryGG - Wednesday Feb 14, 2018
(Intuitive eating in moderation, calorie counting)
Weight: 224.4

Up before 5 today...and I feel a nap comming on......... coffee is working a little....but...........still not ready to be up.

Did get out and do some errands....came home...and took a nap....still foggy...maybe that is just how it's going to be today.

Today apparently is all about the carbs....

Coffee, 2 cheese bagels,butter, and Darn those little debbie cakes!

Just spilled a full glass of water all over everything.

Took sone Tylenol...I need a change in attitude or something.

Skipped lunch not hungry...and planning to just have pot pies for dinner and some fruit....just having a sleepy blah kind of day....I don't have those very often....and i don't like them....but they do go away thankfully...usually pretty quickly.  

Starting to feel more like myself.....pot pies in the oven...fruit defrosted.......still sleepy but in a better mood at least.     no more junk food today....that didn't help.

Ended up eating half of a small pot pie and a dish of pineapple.....just realized I never had my second cup of coffee today.....having that this afternoon.

 

 

 

Progress as of today: 31 lbs lost so far, only 79.4 lbs to go!

horn_of_plenty on 02/14/2018:
ummm, care to send me a nap ;)

just kidding! take care and enjoy your day, BCGG! Happy Velentines!

bearcountrygg on 02/14/2018:
Can't send you a nap but I can take another one for you...LOL Happy Valentines day!


Maria7 on 02/14/2018:
Enjoy your day and congratulations on the progress you have made. :-)

bearcountrygg on 02/14/2018:
Than you!


horn_of_plenty on 02/14/2018:
lol you are so funny!


happy-1 on 02/15/2018:
Don't you wish there were "change in attitude pills"? Like you take them and you instantly have a better one?



BearCountryGG - Tuesday Feb 13, 2018
(Intuitive eating in moderation, calorie counting)
Weight: 224.4

Up early as usual...feeling really good......got a lot of stuff done yesterday and hope to get the same done again today.........Denny had a hunting dog take off yesterday and then couldn't find her.......will be out looking again today....hoping that Nellie will be found ok.  

Breakfast = egg, sausage, toast, coffee, lime in water 

Lunch = mixed nuts, ice cream

Definately craving protein again....and while ice cream is an occasional thing for me....I'm thinking it was about the calcium, still going with the cravings, and I have to say, I'm not overeating and I'm stopping when I'm satisified with the food....the lime cravings are really making me wonder...possibly vitamin c.

Dinner = fish, beets, crackers, banana

D found Nellie thankfully...she was walking down the road about 6 miles away...heading in the wrong direction

Progress as of today: 31 lbs lost so far, only 79.4 lbs to go!

horn_of_plenty on 02/13/2018:
i hope you find the doggie....!

enjoyed an egg and cheese on a really light wrap for breakfast this morning too...toasted up nice in toaster oven = highly recommend this!

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
Sounds delish! No Nellie yet...(sad)


happy-1 on 02/13/2018:
Maybe Nellie will return with steaks, lol. My dog got out the other day and knocked on the front door when I had her dinner ready. Psychic connection. I didn't even know she was gone. Feisty for 18!!!

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
An 18 year old dog is almost unheard of....I'm telling you if putting a steak out for Nellie would work I'd put several of them out...She is wearing a tracking collar and she is deep in the woods...or at least her tracking collar is...she is a bear hound and it's so deep in the woods and the snow is so deep...D doesn't think he can walk in himself. She was tracking a bobcat when she got lost.......we are just hoping she didn't get caught in a trap.

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
OHHH...you meant maybe she would bring us bear steaks...LOL

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
or bob cat steaks....?


horn_of_plenty on 02/13/2018:
yeah, i'm going with my cravings too!

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
I actually think about food a lot less if I just go with the cravings...it always ends up evening out over several days...and I feel good...and I sleep good....and once I eat my craving...I usually forget it....if I don't forget it...I have it until I do. If I crave something I don't have in the house....so far...I have not made a special trip to the store for it.....but I do write it on the shopping list...sometimes by shopping day I don't care about it any more...and sometimes I have found a substitute here that satisfies it.


happy-1 on 02/13/2018:
Oh man... that's a hard spot for your dog to be in... Any neighbor teens that might go for $50?

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
He just found her...she was walking down the road....


happy-1 on 02/13/2018:
OMG!!!! Good doggie. I'd be out of my mind searching for her. Did she lose her collar?

bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018:
Nope...had it on....she was happy to see him...LOL......


happy-1 on 02/13/2018:
Yeah... Master, a hot meal, a fire, and your bed. I just looked up "bear hound" that's a short coat to be out in the snow!

bearcountrygg on 02/14/2018:
yes it is...all night....hope she learned not to do that again.


happy-1 on 02/13/2018:
"bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018: OHHH...you meant maybe she would bring us bear steaks...LOL bearcountrygg on 02/13/2018: or bob cat steaks....?"

Yes, exactly... Hey mom n dad... where were you? I brought dinner!

bearcountrygg on 02/14/2018:
LOL...



BearCountryGG - Monday Feb 12, 2018
(Intuitive eating in moderation, calorie counting)
Weight: 224.4

 Woke up feeling great.......lots of energy and planning on getting a bunch of things done today.  

Decided to not stay with the Amazon prime as our trial time is ending.......wifi here is sketchy and I would have to purchase a kindle or Fire to read the books.....probably not worth the hassle....Daughter in law loves it on her kindle...but son still reads books anyway...and I guess he is taking after us...we all like holding those books and turning the pages ourselves....we are abunch of book lovers here.

Breakfast.....

coffee, 2 slices raisin bread toasted with spray butter, 1 sausage and 1 fried egg, lime juice in water

Snack 

peanut candy, cookies

Lunch

chicken with peppers and onions, quinoa and brown rice, 1/2 bagel with butter, brownie

Dinner

will be yogurt and strawberries 

tea

Progress as of today: 31 lbs lost so far, only 79.4 lbs to go!

horn_of_plenty on 02/12/2018:
no - the kombucha doesn't taste vinegary. the process of fermentation that the kombucha undergoes leaves it with a little sweetness - it does have sugar and just like all the flavored yogurts on the market, kombucha is sold in MANY MANY flavors and i usually opt for flavored. much less sugar than in the yogurts tho!

so it's an addictive taste that i like, sweetness and the brand i drink now (bc it's so much cheaper than the rest so i'd be stupid to buy the other brands!) also has caffeine - so i realize that when i get to work, i shouldn't also have caffeine if i just had it also at home in morning an hour earlier!

anyways, no, if you buy a nice flavor, it's more of a beer taste than vinegary. it is an acquired taste...but carbonated and nice and settling and like coffee, it's quite "relaxing and fun" for me to drink in the morning relaxing before work or at home on weekend. it's not enjoyable to gulp it down - you being retired, it might be nice to drink in the mornings or afternoons - like i said, it helps you poop. if you don't need much help, you don't prob need more than a cup which is the serving size...

bearcountrygg on 02/12/2018:
I'm so curious and I have never found it here....but I definitely DO OT need the laxative effect....LOL


horn_of_plenty on 02/12/2018:
Amazon prime is worth it really if it's the only place you are buying from online - which is usually what i'm doing...but you have your other regular shipments too...

..however, i must say that prime also has a nice food shipping service called prime pantry and i can never use it bc i don't order enough food - but the food on prime pantry is so cheap, you should look into this...

bearcountrygg on 02/12/2018:
I did use the prime pantry during our free trial...and I do LOVE IT!!!! And If I could just get prime pantry for $6 a month I would keep that,,,,but the $100 a year for all of the things that we will never use kinda bugs me...D says if I enjoy it then keep it....but we don't use the music, movies or books so it seems like a waste....We have always done a lot of shopping on Amazon....but we always end up with free shipping anyway because we make sure the total order is over their free shipping number ( I usually fill it in with K cups of coffee)...I will miss the prime pantry though.....LOL...but we are well stocked here with paper and food and household items now...I made sure of that...I swear...we probably have enough TP and Kleenex and household cleaners for the next year...LOL


horn_of_plenty on 02/12/2018:
100 a year is not too much more than $6 a month! it's just $8.33 a month! then again, i think prime is now around 120 a year? so thats $10 a month.

yeah i heard that sometimes prime doesn't even work out for your benefit and it's almost like you are paying to be part of a "club" prime with no real benefits other than to say you are part of the club...i just like it bc i tend to order less than the free shipping amount and when i choose prime, i know i'm getting the item usually in 2 days and free shipping..

bearcountrygg on 02/12/2018:
I was surprised to find that the prime pantry was $6 a month on top of the yearly price...I did hear that they raised it this year for those that pay monthly. We will revisit the idea in a few months when we are in need of a few things again...Amazon is working it's way to becoming a monopoly...and that scares us....the in home listening devices like Alexa...and the UPS device that lets them into your house for deliveries...sounds pretty intrusive.....We love Amazon...and have used them for years...many times a year..and never more than since we moved here...funny thing I noticed is that the prime pantry does not arrive in 2 days...it seems to take a week...but Boxed does arrive in 2 days....but...boxed has limited items...and everything is in HUGE packages...nice thing about amazon is the regular sized things. Amazon canned items are never dented either...and when ordering canned from Boxed, Jet and Walmart...there are dents in them usually ( shipping I think)...amazon packages things very well.


horn_of_plenty on 02/12/2018:
yeah, i know they are definitely becoming a monopoly i remember they were wanting to also sell rx drugs - attempting to try to get into that market i think they were denied rights by gov't...

bearcountrygg on 02/12/2018:
They now own Whole Foods, Have you seen the video about the lady asking alexa if she was the cia....? It wouldn't answer...and it turned off.


happy-1 on 02/12/2018:
I could swear there was offline synch for kindle

bearcountrygg on 02/12/2018:
I did download a kindle app...but it didn't work....I may just not be be tech savy enough for that...LOL



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