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Coffee&Calories - Monday Apr 25, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 120.0

So Sunday ended as a binge sort of :( It has shaken my confidence but I'm doing surprisingly well today.  Basically what happened..I took my kids to a birthday party and was quite hungry by lunch, I kinda dug into the pizza without thinking about it (3 smallish square slices), I had a few pieces off the veggie tray but it wasn't big so I didn't want to hog it to myself, ate a few chips, had a pretty big chocolate chip cookie. It didn't even feel like much food, but we all know the big caloric load of these types. I felt bad about it. Then, I went grocery shopping right after the party, and saw these discounted pillsbury cinnamon cookie dough pre-made cookies...I was already feeling discouraged from making bad choices and I started to get thoughts about these cookies like "well I can start calorie counting again, and these are only 150 so I should definitely get a few pkgs" etc. I already had an open pkg at home, so as soon as I got home I had one, then a couple sour key candies on the counter..and started on the Easter candy. My husband made a big dinner of homemade tomato sauce, meatballs, linguine, mom brought fresh bread...I thought I'll make cauliflower and at least have veggies ready to eat. I continued my overeating because my brain tells me it's okay - you'll start tomorrow! And the food is sooooo good, and I've already screwed up, that i just don't care in that moment. But that's how I end up staying the same weight for years on end. I suppose at least I never really gain weight is one good thing..

Of course my weight is up 2.5 lbs. Yes, it'll come off quickly if I resume good eating habits. This works fine to maintain weight, and I did it frequently when I was 110. BUT, how do I break this cycle to lose weight??? It doesn't matter what my eating plan is, if I'm eating low calories, moderate amount or even maintenance - I do this little dance repeatedly over & over.

Any words of advice are welcome. Clearly I'm just struggling with this, and it's not even because i'm undereating and hungry. I think it's just that i'll use ANY excuse to eat stuff that tastes good and my lower brain is sure great at finding those.. 


Progress as of today: 6 lbs lost so far, only 10 lbs to go!

Jacky82020 on 04/25/2022:
Don’t overthink it & let it get to you! Lapses happen, so just get back in the saddle. You’re self-awareness will save you.

Could be a lot of that 2.5 is water etc, doubt you consumed over 7000 Cals.

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
You are absolutely correct in that - it wasn't 7000 cals so I'm almost back to where I was. I like your suggestion below about eating a protein bar beforehand. I'm always afraid it'll make me want more, but I suppose if I maintain willpower and don't have more than that, it'll even out my blood sugar and help me make better choices afterwards. Thank you!

Jacky82020 on 04/25/2022:
Your self……

happy-1 on 04/25/2022:
Do you plan cheat days for yourself?

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
I don't actually. I never really "do well" to be honest, so I don't think to do them. I can see the merit in them for ppl who actually stick to something regularly and then reward themselves!

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
I don't actually. I never really "do well" to be honest, so I don't think to do them. I can see the merit in them for ppl who actually stick to something regularly and then reward themselves!

bearcountrygg on 04/25/2022:
Been there...it's easy to do...but usually doesn't last too long and the desire will return to cut back again........if only food wasn't so good!!! If all we ever had to eat for the rest of our lives was liver ( insert your most disliked food here)...then none of us would have this problem...and we sure didn't gain weight on raw veggies......

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
Yes, if food wasn't so good, right?! :-) But you were right...I'm cutting back again

Jacky82020 on 04/25/2022:
You may want to think about better food choices in advance to stave off overeating the hi cal goodies. I often eat a protein or granola bar before parties or eating out. Operative word is often, not always. But it does result in less food because I am not starving.

I’m trying to cut back on my nighttime eating by drinking a hot protein drink around 8 PM. Very helpful.

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
Nighttime drink worked well for me last night - I saw your suggestion and used it. I made a lite hot chocolate. Next time I'll buy the premade protein drinks and add that too

Donkey on 04/26/2022:
One thing I noticed is that after you ate at the birthday party, you said you felt bad about it. I believe that this emotion was the beginning of the cascade. I personally did not think it was that bad, and I would encourage you to turn your thinking around to something kinder or at least neutral.

Perhaps you could try coaching yourself with something like, "I enjoyed the food at the party and had a good time. Now the party is over, and I'm back on track for the rest of the day."

I think the negative thoughts got the better of you. But like Bear mentioned, the desire to eat better or to cut back will come back again.

You are your own, best coach. (((hugs)))

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
100% this. That emotion was the catalyst. And looking back it really wasn't that bad! I actually think my brain looks for excuses to eat junk. I've taught myself that if I don't do it perfectly, I might as well continue overeating. Need to work on that so much. Thank you xo

horn_of_plenty on 04/27/2022:
it's hard to eat all the veggies when it's a party and it's not meant to be inudlged on by 1 person....that's how i had to handle things yesterday at our work party as well. i wanted more veggies, but stuck to a small amount bc it was a party situation and veggies to be shared, not hogged...i feel you!

in those party situations, eat a little, but then grab water and keep sipping it...or diet coke....so you can keep your hands/mouth busy instead of eating and for no cals. also tea, herbal tea, and coffee can work.

next time, also, if hungry, i suggest keep a few granola bars or small items that give you a sugar push help, bc it will make you less likely to have a huge binge when you sugars are nicely raised....that's what i do....

and keep drinking low cal things...

maybe next time at party go as far as brining a bag of cucucmber slices to walk around eating out of a ziplock, if you have the time to chop them up...

coffee&calories on 04/27/2022:
I wish I could've handled it like you! Ugh, I was just so hungry I didn't care at the moment. Not sure how to get past the momentary "who cares - deal with it later" mentality. It's so bad! I want to keep some kind of bar in my purse, but in the past I remember eating it just bc it there, not really for emergencies. Guess It all boils down to willpower...gotta use it there is no magic right. Thanks for the excellent suggestions!

horn_of_plenty on 04/27/2022:
it's hard to eat all the veggies when it's a party and it's not meant to be inudlged on by 1 person....that's how i had to handle things yesterday at our work party as well. i wanted more veggies, but stuck to a small amount bc it was a party situation and veggies to be shared, not hogged...i feel you!

in those party situations, eat a little, but then grab water and keep sipping it...or diet coke....so you can keep your hands/mouth busy instead of eating and for no cals. also tea, herbal tea, and coffee can work.

next time, also, if hungry, i suggest keep a few granola bars or small items that give you a sugar push help, bc it will make you less likely to have a huge binge when you sugars are nicely raised....that's what i do....

and keep drinking low cal things...

maybe next time at party go as far as brining a bag of cucucmber slices to walk around eating out of a ziplock, if you have the time to chop them up...

Maria7 on 05/04/2022:
Wishing you a happy Wednesday.

Coffee&Calories - Saturday Apr 23, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 120.0

Things are going great! I fee like I have a new lease on life. No wondering what my breakfast calories are this morning at a chic restaurant we found to go to while the kids are at an art class for a couple hours.

Breakfast: English muffin with sunny egg, white cheddar, smoky bacon and they put on pickled chilies and tomato chili jam -prob the best I've ever had- and had some of hubby's potatoes. I enjoyed myself in a way I haven't in some time.

 Lunch: In a hurry bc I had an appt at salon to get my highlights updated. Had lots of papaya, few apple slices, some bites of yesterdays dinner leftovers. 

Dinner: tomato salad, buckwheat grain (my mom cooked this) and 2 slices potica (she made this too..it's like an ethnic sweet bread, you make a yeast dough and fill it with a walnut mixture). It's really good, especially with coffee which I had too. 

Progress as of today: 6 lbs lost so far, only 10 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 04/23/2022:
Your special breakfast sounds delish!!! Glad to hear you are having a nice morning.

coffee&calories on 04/23/2022:
Thank you Bear! Happy Saturday :)

happy-1 on 04/23/2022:
That sounds like a great breakfast spot!!! Good find and great pick!

coffee&calories on 04/23/2022:
Thanks Happy! I hope you have a lovely day :)

horn_of_plenty on 04/23/2022:
re your comment a few days ago on my entry when you asked me if i ever experience the desire to binge, it is a big fat YES! however, being that veggies are my friend and i regularly have them in the house as well as bring them to work, i mostly am able to eat a volumetric style - BIG VOLUME - and veggies help me when i want to binge. also, i have a lot of low cal foods that an i can incorporate in my meals to fill up, and then just have a little of what i want that is rich to enjoy it and feel like i am treating myself - which i do on a daily basis. I do treat myself. I find that incorporating sweets and snacky carbs into my daily intake is what satisfies me and keeps me from having a really big binge. I also find that eating every few hours helps. I know you want to just have 3 meals - which i couldn't do because i get too hungry that way and that is when i am most tempted to binge. i get low blood sugar easily.

your breakfast sounds so savory and naturally healthy. i'm jealous of the addition of pickled chilis and the tomato chili jam! that's good flavor and not too much sugar added! always love a fresh egg on an english muffin, it's low cal too.

horn_of_plenty on 04/23/2022:
your meals yesterday sound quite balanced and like you are treating yourself, which may work for you!

horn_of_plenty on 04/23/2022:
i have a friend in france who also doesn't snack and is in good shape/lean.

coffee&calories on 04/23/2022:
I have read this a lot about French people. I always found it very interesting. I wondered if the culture has changed at all in recent years. So cool that you actually know someone who lives there!

coffee&calories on 04/23/2022:
I love the way you manage your eating. It’s been my goal, like forever, to do it your way. I’m thinking i may give it another go when/if this stops working for me. I also usually have low blood sugar easily so eating three meals hasn’t worked in the past. This time I am eating bigger meals, and not starting too early in the day, which is helping a lot. What you said made so much sense. I still find it astounding you never let yourself get tricked into “just this once” - bravo - your amazing!!! Thanks for the information. I think I need to have veggies prepped and ready. That might alleviate the “want to eat right now and don’t feel like cooking vegetables” problem.

horn_of_plenty on 04/23/2022:
haha, that friend i have in France....she was born in the UK!, but then lived in thailand i believe as a very little girl, lived most of her school age years in the USA in a wealthy suburb around 1hr from me over here!!, then for college she went back to Europe...her mom was Thai I believe? - and not wealthy and i'm sure food was very limited for her mom growing up and very natural- so maybe she gets it from her mom...her dad was a lawyer who traveled a LOT for his job hence all the moves...and he has a healthy appetite. i guess she had good role models!

coffee&calories on 04/24/2022:
Wow, what a cool life this girl has lived!!! I still live where I was born lol

horn_of_plenty on 04/23/2022:
yes, the key is to have the veggies ready - to have them ready so it's easier and convenient. that's why the bagged salads are so popular even though they are so much more money than buying the lettuce and cutting it up. ..

also, i find the birds eye steamers to be quite good for their seasoned veggie options...they have a stir fry seasoned option i belive, broccoli option, brussel sprouts, and cauliflower option. they actually steam really well in the microwave in the bag.

do you do take out often? when you do, order sauteed veggies or whatever veggie options are available...then you can eat out/order in with healthy addition.

you're right, i tried to get myself far away from the "just this once" brain game because to remain at my weight, i cannot do the "just this once" way of eating...it has to be sustainable....i like to eat and eat a lot, so what i do works day to day.

i do sometimes have trouble and eat a lot earlier on; and then i sorta "suffer" by eating less later...but try not to have this happen too much bc it's a pain.

now i just have to do more cardio; i can stay on the couch on the weekend for a long time / all day...when i'm in the mood to relax.

coffee&calories on 04/24/2022:
This is so enlightening. You make it look so easy, but it’s work for you too. I’m still amazed that you can tell yourself, no I will not binge tonight even though I am (sad, lonely, angry, etc). I think you’ve probably taken a long time to get where you are, and I can’t expect overnight I’ll rid myself of these problems!

horn_of_plenty on 04/24/2022:
yes, it took me all my life since i was 18 and started struggling!

it's been a good 6 years now maintaining since i reached just under 115. i got there originally for my sister's wedding in 2016.

after that, i gained a little back i think that spring/summer (not much just a few pounds still under 120) and didn't like it...so i tried again and got back to 115 and ever since then it's been a good go around for me.

i also had injuries, in the past mostly, that prevented me from working out - but the past 6 years have been better. less preventing me from exercise and i also improved my diet to include more natural foods, the past few years. kept the veggies. and added more healthy fats. also more carbs, believe it or not!

horn_of_plenty on 04/24/2022:
i also love to eat my sweets with coffee...your diner sounds so good. the ethnic bread sounds very satisfying.

Donkey on 04/24/2022:
An observation/comment about eating with no snacking (because meals are sufficient and balanced): When I have done this, usually not intentionally but just by circumstance, and I start to feel hungry around 4:30pm, I remind myself that it's OK to feel this little hunger pang - it's quite normal actually, and that dinner will be coming soon.

I guess what I'm try to say is that our hunger doesn't necessarily have to be satisfied at 1st moment's notice. Sometimes I fall into that trap of, "Hungry? I must eat NOW." No, it's possible that we can also wait a bit, in order to truly enjoy our dinner/supper.

Coffee&Calories - Friday Apr 22, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 120.0

I had the best day I've had in a long time yesterday. I felt really good physically & mentally. I didn't obsess nearly as much about food and eating proper meals allowed me to actually feel FULL (very satisfied, not stuffed). When I constantly take small snacks, I don't ever really get that full feeling. And I lost a pound to boot. That felt easy. I hope I can keep this up. 

Breakfast: (very rushed) banana, big spoon of almond butter, brioche roll, and leftover greek yogurt with a little granola in it.

Late lunch almost 2pm: huge plate of lettuce topped with lots of beef/black bean chilli I made, cheese, frank's red hot and lime cilantro Crema. Omg was really good. Tiny bit of leftover pizza. Sparkling water with lunch then Coffee w/ cream and a couple Oreos. 

Dinner: leftover chicken, mixed vegetables, basmati rice, one tiny chocolate ball...had little appetizer of a rice cake, raw veg w/ spinach dip, few olives, couple apple slices & chips


Progress as of today: 6 lbs lost so far, only 10 lbs to go!

Jacky82020 on 04/22/2022:
Good for you!

Mind you if I ask how tall you are? Think I’m the shortest one here at 5’1”. That’s 3” above official dwarf upper limit!

coffee&calories on 04/22/2022:
Official dwarf upper limit hahaha I’m not much better! About 5’3, but I’ve shrunken a bit because my spine is slightly curved (have scoliosis) prob more like 5’2

happy-1 on 04/22/2022:
Everything’s earlsier when you don’t do it alone. We’re here!

coffee&calories on 04/22/2022:
Thank you so much happy!

Jacky82020 on 04/22/2022:
You’re weight is actually very good, but I know how you feel about wanting to drop a few. You’re way ahead because you’re keeping it in check vs steadily gaining like the average person

coffee&calories on 04/23/2022:
I spent years hovering around 112 and it was such a massive difference, those few pounds, in how I felt and looked and all of that. Just want to get back!

Donkey on 04/23/2022:
Yes, what a great day! This was so nice to read :-)

coffee&calories on 04/23/2022:

Coffee&Calories - Thursday Apr 21, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 121.0

Thank you so much for all your support on my entry yesterday! I didn't get a chance to update yesterday, but long story short, my "weak" time is afterschool, around 4pm. I for some reason dove into the Easter candy/chocolate. It started to go off the rails, so I ate some dinner and stopped there. Not sure what the calorie outcome was, but I felt good going to bed and woke up proud that i didn't continue into a binge.  

I think I may go back to doing three meals for awhile. The numbers are causing me issues these days, and it seems if food is always an option, I literally eat all day. That's no way to create a deficit. I know it'll be brutal for a few days adjusting to no snacks, but I believe I'll eat better this way, and less. I dont think I realize how much junk I consume when I'm not paying attention. 

Off to work, will update later. Have a great day everyone!


Right now I'm kinda focusing on just not overeating/grazing constantly/binging. That means eating big, satiating meals for two reasons: if I eat like bird all day, sometimes I think I've got so many calories left and start snacking until I've gone way over my limit. Secondly, if I snack a lot, I don't really feel like I've eaten, and compensate by eating more. I don't really eat preperly either, because I'm far less likely to snack on salad and such. I came up with a general guideline to wait 4-5 hours between meals (I seem to keep reading that's ideal for nutrient absorption, insulin etc) but it just mainly sounds like a good way to space it out. I'll taper down the quantities if neccessary once I'm in the groove of things, but for now, I don't want my brain trying to trick me that I didn't eat that much, or eat enough, or whatever.  


Breakfast: bagel & cream cheese, banana, spoon natural peanut butter (didn't finish)

Lunch: 2 small wraps filled with spring mix, onions, mozza, feta, ham, tomato sauce, olives, squirt nando's perinaise sauce& hot sauce. 2 mini yogurts and a pure protein peppermint bar. Diet coke and yet another coffee.

Dinner: grilled chicken, roasted broccoli, salad, buttered pasta 

Progress as of today: 5 lbs lost so far, only 11 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 04/21/2022:
Stopping your binge was a great thing to do.....and being able to do that helps in the future..( knowing that you can). 3 meals make a lot of sense for me too...it does stop a lot of calories from happening just before meals.....( being hungry at 4 ...is common...I often have to remind myself that being hungry is not a crime...it also does not mean that I will perish if I don't eat immediately..it DOES mean that my body is burning fat......I reached 254.8 pounds originally by grazing all day....during a stressful time........and I NEVER want to go back there again..

coffee&calories on 04/21/2022:
Yes that's it - being hungry is actually good for us, but when you're not used to it, it can feel almost panicky.

happy-1 on 04/21/2022:
Good job recognizing the need for real food.

coffee&calories on 04/21/2022:
Thanks happy! I'm realizing this more & more

Donkey on 04/22/2022:
I wanted to thank you for your comment on my diary. You're right, it's not OK, but I think I will be OK eventually. That is to say, that there is hope with the grief.

I wanted to congratulate you on stopping a binge, and then getting back on track with dinner and your evening. I would agree that late afternoon like that has ALWAYS been a hard time for me. At work, that's when it will hit me -- mine is more like 3pm, but it's the same thing. If I do not have enough carbs at lunch, I tend to be stress-eating at work in the later afternoon.

Coffee&Calories - Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 0.0

I have not been doing very well, calorie or weight wise. I haven't lost anything, and put back on the weight I lost in the Fall. Christmas threw me off course, never found my footing again. Hovering in low 120's. While this is theoretically fine, I feel like crap. I don't post because I hate to complain, and busier than ever! The job I took ended up being longer hours for all of March, and still occasionally is some days now dependng on what they need help with. It's great though, I enjoy it. Not teaching in the classic sense which I burned out on. 

So how to get back on track, like forever? I don't know whether calorie counting helps or hinders me. As soon as I see the number climbing into the high teens I get triggered and stop caring, eating whatever i want. I clearly have a patience issue, because i want the weight off NOW, but then I make it even worse by overeating. So dumb. I don't understand myself. 

Anyways,I'm thinking maybe publicly posting my food intake might shame me into better habits LOL

So far today only coffee (25 cals). I am usually not hungry in the morning, likely because I am crazy running around getting three kids ready, I make hubby his food/coffee to go as well, and then once they're gone, it's puppy time...then out to work. So hence the lack of appetite. I get home really early, sometimes by 11:15, or today will be a touch later at 11:45am. But never later than 1:40pm. 

Had a granola bar in the last class 100

I made another coffee to take on a long walk with the puppy 25 (i'm using up whipping cream so put half a tablespoon in)

salad 100. Probably more than this but I don't feel like weighing vegetables. I just dumped the whole bag but didn't use the kit that comes with it like dressing crouton chips etc. I figure if watery vegetables are my biggest problem, I don't really have a problem. Added some steak 150 and dressing 100

Got really hungry before kids pickup time: 
Pineapple 125
bun 100
chilli 100
Crystal light 10  
bagel and pb 175
sugar cookie 130 


Jacky82020 on 04/20/2022:
You’re a teacher? I taught jr hi and hi for 13 years at a downtown ghetto school in California. Gave it up to pursue other adventures on the east coast.

You get back on track by forgetting yesterday & moving on & trying harder. Your feelings are not dumb, they are universal (more or less). Most have felt exactly the same way.

I don’t really count calories, but I try to limit my intake of the delicious high calorie foods. Like goodies & fast food. Matt is off early on Fridays and that allows for 3 days of fast food delights, but I try to limit it to one and skip even that when the scale # rises. Plus I don’t order what I really want, and go for tiny meals. A few times I eat half a protein bar before we go out, so I’m not famished.

Maria7 on 04/20/2022:
Sounds like you have a very busy schedule. Glad you are back with us again! We are all here to offer support to one another and you are at the right place!

bearcountrygg on 04/20/2022:
Your struggle sounds like the struggle s of most.....we get it. Posting your foods may work really well...I know it often does for me.

happy-1 on 04/21/2022:
What everyone said x2… you can do this.

Donkey on 04/21/2022:
I think that you get back on track "forever" by taking one day at a time. Just focus on today. That is what I am doing. It's easy to say it, but this goal - of focusing on today - can get lost in the chaos and drama of living.

Coffee&Calories - Friday Feb 25, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 0.0

 Can't sleep yet AGAIN. It's 3:45am, been up since 2 because I heard husbands email alerts coming through on his phone. Yesterday turned into a Big binge. Didn't list any of it, guessing over 3000. Damn, hard not to get discouraged. But another day means another opportunity to try again.

Read an interesting article on calorie restriction linked below. "There’s so much debate about what type of diet is better—low carbohydrates or fat, increased protein, intermittent fasting, etc.—and I think time will tell which of these are important,” said Dixit. “But CALERIE is a very well-controlled study that shows a simple reduction in calories, and no specific diet, has a remarkable effect in terms of biology and shifting the immuno-metabolic state in a direction that’s protective of human health."


Donkey on 02/25/2022:
Put yesterday's food fit behind you and move forward.

I don't discount the many benefits of calorie restriction overall -- not just weight-loss. However, for myself, I find that maintaining a balance of higher calories to maintain my activity level is more mentally stabilizing, if that makes sense.

I've been reading in one of my women's power-lifting groups that a slight deficit will allow for muscle growth and some weight/fat loss. I could hold back 200 calories from my daily consumption but it would be very difficult to be satisfied at drastically lower calories, e.g. 1900 versus 1500.

coffee&calories on 02/25/2022:
Thanks Donkey. I will do my best to move forward today. Not sure how to stop it from happening in the future. For the most part I have the exact same feelings as you about a small deficit. I just don't seem to have any better luck with eating more, even though it should theoretically help.

Donkey on 02/25/2022:
^ This is just for where I'm at right now. I would love to get to a point where meals were reduced and/or more plant-based.

bearcountrygg on 02/25/2022:
Pretty much does come down to calorie deficit for most all weight loss diets.......but has to be maintainable after the weight loss is achieved....thats where it gets tough for real.

coffee&calories on 02/25/2022:
Yup that's it. I just need to stick it out long enough to lose any meaningful amount of weight. I do really great at maintaining, but I seem to lack the willpower to buckle down and lose.

horn_of_plenty on 02/26/2022:
sometimes when i eat too low calories, not often these days, i will not be able to sleep. usually, i can cure it with a banana or few cookies. if feeling a binge off that, some seltzer sweetened wtih stevia. carbs help you sleep...but i see you were distrubed by husband's phone so maybe food had nothing to do with it..

horn_of_plenty on 02/26/2022:
the 1 period a day job sounds really good. try not to interact with any annoying people. it only takes one person like that to destroy the atmosphere for a worker...been there, just do you...stay too busy to interact with those types.

Coffee&Calories - Wednesday Feb 23, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 0.0

Breakfast: 2 black coffees, cinnamon apple muffin - 225 

Lunch: cabbage mixture 150, low cal dumpling soup 150, flourless blender muffin 150 - 450

Snack: blueberry banana muffin - 150, homemade bagel w/ cc and jam - 180 (did a bunch of baking) 330

Dinner: pizza crust 100, goldfish 100,  gummies 50, salami/cheese 100, peanut butter 100, broccoli 50, fruit/yogurt 60 = 560 

Total: 1565

Jacky82020 on 02/23/2022:
You’re using the bar graph! My favorite DD thing!

One of these days I’m going to have to learn to like black coffee. Add chocolate protein drink for flavor and as an appetite suppressant, but have to try some plain old black.

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
I actually thought of you at Walmart bc I saw the protein drinks and almost bought them for coffee! I do like black coffee but I think the protein is prob good for avoiding the jitteriness I can sometimes get and making it more like a treat! I need to use up the clearance protein bars I overbought, then I’ll get the protein drinks :))

bearcountrygg on 02/23/2022:
Cabbage sounds good.

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
It was! I’m totally gonna make it again. Tasted like pasta bc of the sauce and cheese.

Jacky82020 on 02/23/2022:
I used to stir fry cabbage every week, but went to the frozen Normandy Blend: Carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini and yellow squash. The cabbage was good, need to try again for something different

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
I’m out of vegetables so I’ll look for this blend. I like the convenience of frozen. Honestly if it’s a lot of work to prep veg I often just skip eating them and that’s no recipe to lose this weight.

Jacky82020 on 02/23/2022:
Walmart has a great protein drink (they have several) but the one I like best is the same as Premier Protein, 160 Cals and 30 gm protein. A lot cheaper than the name brand which I used for years.

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
Yup that’s the one I was looking at. I tried vanilla, caramel and chocolate some time ago. Think I liked vanilla the best. Tried to mimic a vanilla latte, mocha with the chocolate and caramel macchiato like at Starbucks. They also had strawberry and banana too, but I can’t imagine that in coffee.

Jacky82020 on 02/23/2022:
I don’t have any patience when it comes to chopping vegetables, other than slicing the cabbage and cooking in a big electric skillet and making potato wedges (skin and all ) in the air fryer.

Also cook the Normandy Blend in the electric pan, using only a little spray oil and lots of powdered garlic & paprika. Think it’s like 35 Cal a cup, so that’s terrific even if you eat 3 cups.

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
Sounds delish. I’ll buy tomorrow and make it this way.

Jacky82020 on 02/23/2022:
I make fake Starbucks too! Use the sugar free syrups, caramel, vanilla, hazelnut & chocolate. think the brands are DaVinci & Toroni. Amazon has them at good prices, but available everywhere. Even have a little electric frother that works best with low fat milk.

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
Yes! I’ve tried both brands of sf syrups and tend to go with what’s cheapest. I find a ton of flavours at Home Sense/Winners. I over buy those lol. I currently have at least 4 bottles, I get suckered into the endless varieties, and all the seasonal ones. They’re especially good in iced lattes I make in the summer mostly. With almond milk it’s so low cal. Sugar free stuff doesn’t bother me at all, so I use it.

horn_of_plenty on 02/23/2022:
i'm behind...but will be back to comment...and with the recipe you asked for :)

Jacky82020 on 02/24/2022:
Love all those sugar free syrups. Slice & freeze bananas & pour on a few tablespoons of chocolate syrup. All flavors good though on them. No artificial sweetener has ever bothered me either.

coffee&calories on 02/24/2022:
I haven’t came across sugar free chocolate syrup (just the coffee ones that are much thinner like water). Need to find an actual syrup or order online. I do think my local grocery store might have Walden Farms, but it’s quite pricey. Maybe I should try it though.

Donkey on 02/24/2022:
I've heard of people using cabbage as a pasta substitute. The first time I heard about it, I didn't realize what she was trying to accomplish. So I was picturing like a cole slaw spaghetti -- which doesn't sound very appealing. NOW I see what she was talking about.

How did this calorie level work for you? :-)

coffee&calories on 02/24/2022:
The cabbage is surprisingly so good. I just throw stuff together, no recipe. If I just put a little time into it, it’s amazing how good vegetables can taste and how filling they are. No wonder they’re such a boon to weight loss!

This level of calories will definitely allow me to lose weight slowly. The problem with me is consistency. I usually overeat a few days a week and so I never see any loss :) always trying though…will not give up!

Coffee&Calories - Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 0.0

Hi Friends! Back to calorie counting. I did well for awhile with the intermittent fasting, but when I fail, I fail hard. Going down that rabbit hole made me eventually realize I just don't really buy into that theory of losing weight. Yes, lower carbs and periods of time without eating is useful in its own right, but it's cal in cal out that determines whether you lose weight. I know a lot of people disagree with that, but I've seen many people and experienced myself that it's 100% true. I know if I stuck to meals/small portions/no overeating I'd lose weight, but I guess I really like the control of cal counting and getting to eat when I want. Plus, I have read about caloric restriction and longevity, and the science seems to point to THAT being the key (but there can't be malnutrition, it must be nutrient rich).

I really desperately want to be down a few pounds, but I think moreso I just want to feel like I have a handle on this, some control. That I'm not a slave to food.


Breakfast: homemade light cinnamon apple muffin & 2 black coffees - 225

Snack: N/A

Lunch: Cabbage saute with turkey meatballs (will have to guesstimate - I'll go back and reread HOP's advice on how to calculate veggie dishes)..okay lets see..cabbage is only 17 calories a cup so cooked would be about half a cup..say 35 for 1 cup cooked, meatballs were 25 a piece (ill have 4) and i used some spray oil (10?)  and pasta tomato sauce (25?), seasonings like bone broth powder and cube stock negligible I think, okay ill add 10, added nutritional yeast and parmesan = 275 Had Diet pepsi too. 
Also bought sugar free metamucil. It's calorie free bc we can't digest psyllium husk, so this will help fill up my stomach too, tastes reasonable. Got the berry flavour.

Snack: 49g cinnamon raisin toasted bread - 130, 15g cream cheese-40, 15ml jam-25, Starbucks coffee-5 = 200

Dinner: orange 50 chicken thigh 150 rice 150 broccoli 100 = 450

Dessert: gourmet cupcakes stepdaughter brought over 300

Bedtime: veggies 100, cupcake 300 - 400

Total 1850

Jacky82020 on 02/22/2022:
I am totally into calorie restriction for disease risk reduction & longevity. Best book I found on subject is The Switch by James Clement. Had a whole library of Blue Zone books, but recently shipped my collection to friend.

Yes, basically calories in & calories out, but when restricting calories, you want high nutrition foods. Well, most of the time. Even my guru James goes off the rail, mostly when he dines out.

I randomly came across his book as a library ebook.

coffee&calories on 02/22/2022:
Thanks for reminding me of that book-I'll get it. So far I've only read The Longevity Diet by Brian Delaney and Lisa Walford. Great information there too.

bearcountrygg on 02/22/2022:
What ever way you choose to lose does need to be a life long habit......I suspect it has happened to most if not all of us....when the "diet" is done...people tend to go back to their old ways...and put it back on plus some more for good measure......The body has a way of letting us know that it really doesn't trust us....No fun....I want to kick myself every time I think that If I had never gained it to start with then I wouldn't be fighting it for the rest of my life.

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
Yes exactly. Life would be sooo much better if I hadn't let those measly 10 lbs creep on, now I've spent over 3 years trying to get them off!!!

Donkey on 02/23/2022:
This, what you wrote, really spoke to me: "I really desperately want to be down a few pounds, but I think moreso I just want to feel like I have a handle on this, some control. That I'm not a slave to food."

AGREE 100%

coffee&calories on 02/23/2022:
Thanks Donkey - goodness it feels nice to be understood, as many people who don't struggle just don't understand how taxing it is <3

Coffee&Calories - Thursday Jan 13, 2022
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 118.0

Hi DD, happy new year 2022! I think I did try to do an entry awhile back, but had trouble posting and then didnt get around to it until now. Holidays were spectacular and weight gain was part of that package :) Not too much, but boy I overdid it! It's so hard when hubby usually isn't home much b/c of work, and then we spent many nights eating doritos and other junk in bed while watching tv. Some things are just worth it. Weird that he partakes once a year with me LOL. As you may remember, he is not a snacker/junk food eater.

Covid got spread around the family, but all good, no one got sick. My brother in law did only a little, one day feeling flu-ish. I think this variant is more mild compared to previous one. I'm sure it helps that we're all vaccinated (kids only partially so far). My 74 year old mother said it was worth it to spend holidays with family, as being alone all the time is no life worth living. She did not have any symptoms, thank goodness! It's funny because in all this time, what 2 years or something, I don't know anyone that got covid and then over a two week period literally every person i talk to says they all got it. Shows me how much more contagious Omicron is (but also more mild). No one had any issues, so happy to hear. I usually get a horrible cold every year, that leaves me coughing for a month or more, but since all this covid stuff, I havent had anything. Can't complain about that part ;)

Ontario is in partial lockdown. Kids have been virtual schooling since the holidays but are supposed to go back on Monday. Dare I say I have actually really enjoyed having them home this time. My oldest just turned 8 and she's completely independent, even my 5  yr old twins can do it alone with exception I log them on.

Okay, weight stuff. So, I really, realllllly struggled to get back on track. I tried and tried to no avail. I'd have a good day, but then followed by numerous bad days. I actually didn't gain weight over Christmas, but more so afterwards. Two days ago when I was planning to start a strict calorie counting diet, I weighed myself and was 120.6. I thought to myself, if I can eat THAT much (eating until way past satisfaction, usually feeling sick) I don't need a strict diet, I just need some kind of normalcy. Never had luck with it before, but decided to give it a real go. 

I decided to do Intermittent fasting like a youtuber I had watched with a similar lifestyle to mine. It's not letting me copy & paste but the channel is called the Daily Connoisseur (Jennifer Scott). I think sometimes I watch people who are in such a different stage of life that it's very hard to replicate their patterns. Young, single 20-somethings are fun to watch but its not realistic for me. Long story short, I've had the best couple of days I've had in ages. Basically, I am aiming for three meals and one dessert per day eaten between 9am-5pm. This is what she does and it really works for me. Many people do different windows but hers very much agrees with my lifestyle. I know there is no magic, its the calories, but a different way to corral them. I immediately lost the 2-3 lbs I put on and I'm aiming to makes plates of food instead of snacking my way through the day. I'd like to post my meals for accountability but this site isn't letting me post more than one picture. I'll try.

Just wanted to update and hope I can keep myself on track with this.

Breakfast: Egg white French toast, blueberries & banana, plain yogurt which I sweeten myself with vanilla bean and sugar free syrup.

Lunch: buttered noodles, meat sauce I made, garden salad (no rhyme or reason why it's posting sideways)


Coffee time: Starbucks black coffee and chocolate chip cookie (with icing on it I tried to scrape off). Yet again it's sideways :-/


Progress as of today: 8 lbs lost so far, only 8 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 01/13/2022:
Welcome back! Glad you and your Family are all well.

coffee&calories on 01/13/2022:
Thank you!

Jacky82020 on 01/13/2022:
The breakfast looks wonderful!

I’m reading Omicron is highly contagious & almost everyone in the US is expected to eventually test positive. JFC! But those vaccinated & boosted are usually asymptomatic. Or very minor cold like symptoms. Saw Op-Ed article yesterday in NYT by ER doc. He’s outraged by all the antivaxxers coming in & taking up beds.

My husband had to go to the ER recently & it was a miserable over 12 hour rate because of all these unvaccinated jerks that were kept in separate areas but affected everyone. I finally went home & left poor hubby there alone. Nothing I could do & all the cats & dogs needed me. We needed each other.

coffee&calories on 01/13/2022:
I hope he’s okay. What a miserable time the ER is in the best of times, but as you say now it’s made worse. I heard recently that it is hard to get an ambulance because people are taking up space with very minor issues when they call 911. I can imagine how bad you felt leaving him. So hard when there are other little creatures that need us to.

bearcountrygg on 01/13/2022:
Your breakfast looks good....glad to hear that you are all okay now.

coffee&calories on 01/13/2022:
Thanks Bear :)

Donkey on 01/14/2022:
So glad to hear from you! I liked reading what you wrote about normalcy in eating. I think you have a good plan for yourself and your goals :-)

legcramps on 01/14/2022:
Love your pics!

Horn_of_plenty on 01/15/2022:
Hi Coffee!!! Happy New Year!

I didn't remember your hubby isn't a snack eater! wow. That's good for you, as most hubbies love the treats and the wives get annoyed with all the treats in the homes right!?

I know people that got the first round of covid as well as now the Omicron. I'd glad everyone is OK in your family. it's true, life is not worth living is you do nothing forever...it's nice your family got together.

it's good to hear you have been managing quite well with the kids home the past couple weeks. it's so good they have been able to do things on their own, too! not all kids are that way!

your meals look great.

most people, like we've discussed, cannot to drastic regimens like intermittent fasting and continue them for a long period of time. and i'm glad you are trying something that works better for your lifestyle. i totally get you and wanting to follow these drastic people who seem to have such success using their methods; but unfortunately they do not work best for us...so that means listen to your own mind :) nice job so far.

Coffee&Calories - Sunday Dec 05, 2021
(Calorie Counting)
Weight: 118.0

I haven't been weighing super frequently but I do keep an eye out. Not sure how my weight dropped to 116.6 but I'll take it. Wow. I should check my scale is accurate with weights.  

I feel like I've been getting the hang of things much better. I haven't had perfect days and I have not had any low-calorie days, but it seems that the lack of overeating/binging is allowing my weight to drop. I'm trying to give myself 1600 cal a day and I just track it in this little app I used to use many years ago when I maintained around 110. It's not a tracker like my fitness pal, it's more like you just write down the food and input the calories yourself so I don't have to keep it in my head but to me it's much faster than the typical trackers. I suppose a beginner would be confused but since I know calories really well it's easy for me just pop it in there real fast when I'm eating. It helps me keep things under control because when I try to do it in my head I easily forget and then I give up Because I have no idea what number I'm at anymore. While most days I've gone above above my limit, I'm not letting it turn into giving up

this group has been infinitely helpful. While it's no secret that dieters should be heavy on vegetables and fruits, I never really acted on that knowledge enough. Like last night when I was making dinner, since I didn't have to focus on my husband who eats big proper meals, I made myself eggplant parmigiana, asparagus, and stuff like that which filled me up and kept the calories low. I mean these are all obvious things, but it's just working differently now. I'm trying to work my day around Foods that will fill me up and foods that are fun, knowing I can eat anything I want just not all at once. Here's a picture of the eggplant thing I made in the air fryer for about 300 cals. 


Progress as of today: 8 lbs lost so far, only 8 lbs to go!

happy-1 on 12/05/2021:
Yum!!! I def need an air fryer

Jacky82020 on 12/05/2021:
You’re doing great & the recipe looks marvelous!

Don’t forget to change the default numbers for images. Or else they come up HUGE! I generally set the upper # to 400 & the lower defaults accordingly. I start by zeroing both. Kinda weird & takes a little getting used to.

Donkey on 12/05/2021:
That eggplant looks delicious! I take full advantage of eggplant when it's in season. Tasty, you can eat a lot of it without doing damage, versatile (you can spice it up in many different ways to keep it exciting) -- a winner all the way around. I love it!

I think that's incredibly victorious that you are at a spot where you can just let your body find its perfect weight, because the binge eating has stopped (or lessened). Your body will thank you for that :-)

Horn_of_plenty on 12/05/2021:
so, the eggplant, looks GREAT GREAT GREAT. makes me want to get an air fryer but i know i can mostly do it in my stove. if i cooked more, i'd get the fryer but it's not worth it just for me right now, at all...i get takeout a lot.

sometimes just listening to others' ideas and plans helps a ton! i have done that so much also! seems you are getting used to some changes. btw, you weight is pretty darn good!

legcramps on 12/06/2021:
Looks delicious!

Maria7 on 12/07/2021:
Looks like you're doing good!

happy-1 on 12/11/2021:
How is your weekend going? Any delicious meals?

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