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Horn_of_plenty - Friday May 11, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.2

7day: 1985 per day !!!!! Great!!!!

Friday total 1400 - no dinner except coffee at 7 and 2 granola bars before bed :)

Half my Journal was deleted

Today i slept in because I have the day off. I had a late tasty breakfast and plans to only go out and jog, pack for the weekend away as i'm driving with a coworker friend to a seminar about 2-2.5hrs out east for a seminar class/getaway, and then plans to go meet her at work at 2:30 as she's working and we'll leave from there. 

10am breakfast on the big side: blackberries 50, oatmeal made with oats 150, protein powder 100, almond milk-cocoa powder-chia seeds 100, a truffle oil (got tons of oils in my apt that

Progress as of today: -1.2 lbs lost so far, only 5.2 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/11/2018:
It will all work out.....if you aren't comfortable driving then by all means you shouldn't.....hope you have a great weekend.

Horn_of_plenty on 05/11/2018:
thanks...yes, totally not comfortable driving that distance myself. happy to go with her...so when i make plans, i can't just have a totally separate Itinerary so i'm glad at least she made good plans for Sunday...although it is supposed to rain so i'm wondering if ziplining will happen.

Donkey on 05/11/2018:
Is this a work seminar or a fun seminar?

A break might do you good - like a re-set. I know you've been struggling lately. So maybe a change of scene might help you recenter, refocus, upon your return.

happy-1 on 05/11/2018:

horn_of_plenty on 05/14/2018:
It was amazing bc of a physical aspect necessary for this course !!!! I want to go back.

happy-1 on 05/11/2018:
Oooh oooh... take your mom ziplining!!!

happy-1 on 05/11/2018:
Oooh oooh... take your mom ziplining!!!

Donkey on 05/12/2018:
WTH happened to the rest of your entry?!? LOL...

horn_of_plenty on 05/12/2018:
Something happened as I was editing my entry using my phone I didn't press submit and I accidentally highlighted parts and they deleted !!!!

Horn_of_plenty - Thursday May 10, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 114.6

Home: nothing got up with time only to shower and dress.... I can't wait to sleep in tomorrow.

Work: Overnight oats of oats 150, protein powder 100, chia seeds 50, cocoa 30, almond milk 30, stevia and cinnamon, toasted sesame oil 50.410...didn't feel full right away, but after i started digesting it after like 20 minutes, my stomach feels full. I still craved a coffee right after finishing, but the craving subsided bc the mix of oats and chia seeds has a lot of fiber. i added some oil for the healthy fats. I plan to take a break from my wraps in AM and make overnight oats as a change of pace but also i'll be trying to balance them out with healthy fat and protien. i have protein powder at home to use up, additionally. glad the expiration date hasn't passed!

Snack: coffee and almonds 200

Lunch from home: wrap 60 with avocado 160 and tuna 70 garlic and pepper and Israeli salad 150, matzah with cheese 150 600. i really enjoy these Sonoma Jack cheeses...very low cal and a big taste.!!!!!!!!!!!

Snack: coffee and maybe an apple 1350

Dinner before workout: Dunkin' Donuts egg and cheese on English muffin 360

After workout: bar ? Or ice cream not sure. prob ice cream.

2050 cals, excellent.

6day avg: 2083, fine.


....i I could have ended yesterday much lower cals but I admit to lots of overeating when I get home with no activities planned. I have to work on it. I'm going to use calorie free drinks to help me.

I also have to admit i am addicted to overeating. i stuff myself to being very full and it gets me tired. usually i go to bed afterwards, even if it's only 6pm or 7pm.

and i am still having trouble getting outta bed, no matter what the time - but still happy to show up at work at 8 instead of 7.


tomorrow in the later afternoon i'm driving out with a coworker to an event where there could be drinking at night and overeating. i will make choices and work my best to stay within a range of 2050 cals tomorrow.

same with saturday and sunday....as the event is all day and all night saturday...and sunday morning...then out for mother's day meal at 2pm sunday..

....so once again, it's my choice to either stay on the right path or get derailed. the woman i'm going with drinks a lot...i am not in a mood to drink at all...as i'm just getting into losing weight again.

Progress as of today: -0.6 lbs lost so far, only 4.6 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/10/2018:
I think over eating and being tired after is typical.......the thing I always think about if I eat too much and am miserable after is that I don't want to stretch my stomach out...then it will be able to hold more......and I do not want that. Lately it doesn't take much to fill me up...and that is the way I want it...I have been drinking the zero point waters...and there isn't much room for much food with those.

horn_of_plenty on 05/10/2018:
i used to drink a lot of flavored seltzer after dinner and i'd add stevia. it helped me from continuously overeating..i shall go back to this method :)

i used to drive home from work and pick them up along the way....now i just need to buy them on the weekend.

i def need to implement some changes and strategies to stop my destructive behaviors.

Horn_of_plenty - Wednesday May 09, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.0

Home: kombucha 70

Breakfast 8am: apple 130, coffee 50 (goal is to not have a big breakfast anymore when i arrive at work...waste of calories and i'm always hungry a couple hours later anyways...) I am looking to lose 5 lbs and looking for ways to lower my calorie intake / spread it out better.

Breakfast: Dunkin Donuts egg sandwich (free one i got last night bc they keep having 2 for 1 deals!) 350

Lunch: chicken with skin 300 tops, Israeli salad with some dressing 150, matzah and cheese 150. 600 ? lunch is more cals, but gotta eat and not willing to lower this here.


Snack: almonds ? 100 / clementine

1250 before dinner

Dinner was too much food having a problem with sticking to my plan

Dark meat chicken with skin 200, my own lightly oiled and roasted eggplant 150, lots of something called Moroccan carrot salad it has oil though not overboard and I had almost 2 cups 350? And whipped cream 130. Diet Coke. 830 not good seems I have a lot of trouble with portions. Next time I will force myself to have less and start buying more calorie free drinks for home.

2050 today. Hopefully not more. Like I said, I eat big portions so dinner was at least 800. Overall 2050 is still ok.

5day avg: 2090/day..

Starting today, for one month i'm making changes in my breakfast i eat at work so i can make some changes so my calories will no longer be higher than 2000 per day/week. I want to see where I am come June 10!  This is my real start to losing 5 lbs!


Yesterday went well, workouts are strong lately. I am better at the leg moves, too. :)  I am also very  energized this AM!!! feeling good. An ode to JDonkey, I am wearing dress pants instead of jeans and trying to dress nicer for work to fit in more with how people dress in NYC (Manhattan).  People dress up more here in Manhattan than in Queens, where I used to work. I actually need to stop wearing jeans..and switch to dress pants and nicer tops. I'll buy them little by little and already have a decent supply at home...Ode to Donkey bc she recently got new pants too.


Tonight i'll take a longer walk home and since I am off on both Friday and Monday, i have planned JOG SESSIONS (not gym!) on those days to make sure they happen. I was going to jog tonight, but didn't want to do it late and then Friday have to jog earlier...i didn't feel the two workouts would be spaced out enough. 

Progress as of today: -1 lbs lost so far, only 5 lbs to go!

graindart on 05/09/2018:
I think lowering the breakfast calories is a smart move. For me it's always easier to skimp on the AM calories, so that I don't feel as deprived later on around dinner time. In the past, if I've used up a large portion of calories in the AM, then it's a struggle to keep under my daily allowance.

horn_of_plenty on 05/09/2018:
Same here. I love to eat and realize a lot of my AM eating Is totally to avoid starting work so yes working on it.

bearcountrygg on 05/09/2018:
When I eat early...I'm hungry all day...when I start eating later....I do get hungry in the evening...but I suspect it's more about knowing that I missed a meal and the desire to eat that 3rd meal...rather I'm hungry or not. I totally vote for waiting as long as possible before starting to eat in the A.M.

horn_of_plenty on 05/10/2018:
Yes working on this :)

Donkey on 05/09/2018:
I'm glad that I was able to inspire! I do try to appear more professional at work.

CONFESSION: I would love to be the type of lady who could be comfortable in a suit (skirt suit or pantsuit) at work. But either it's either not who I am or the job is too stressful to get THAT dressed up for it. The higher the stress, the more comfortable I need to be, so that I can focus.

horn_of_plenty on 05/10/2018:
I believe a nice blouse and nice pants are fine - i think the suit jacket is overdone....these women in the city wear lots of dresses, nice shoes, nice tops...i have no style comparatively lol.

Donkey on 05/09/2018:
PS I agree with the new approach to breakfast. Perhaps try a protein (hard boiled egg?) rather than a fruit if you're having problems with blood sugar levels. Otherwise, looked good today! (thumbs up)

horn_of_plenty on 05/10/2018:
i admit to having a struggle with eating less. i feel like my stomach is a bottomless pit these days.

yes, i do get blood sugar problems but only an egg would be hard for me bc it's sooo small / no fiber EXCEPT it is a good idea to eat small when first coming into work. I can't believe how much of a struggle i feel like i am having. it's in my head mostly.

Horn_of_plenty - Tuesday May 08, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.0

4day: 2100...not as good as i like but def seems to be around the average the past few months..Will be trying to make tomorrow an 1800 calorie day. 

6:30am Home: kombucha 50

8:30am Work breakfast: eng muffin 150, avocado 160, frank 150, coffee 50. 

10am snacking: orange pieces from coworker 30, almonds 100

Lunch: from home: chicken with skin 300, grape tomatoes 100, matzah and cheese 150  550 or so...coworker asked if i'd make popcorn and i made it and ate it lol. it was sweet and salty! 150 cal or so.


Snacks: coffee 50


Dinner before gym: dunkin donuts egg sandwich 350 

Snack: light ice cream or a cliff bar yes...approx 260-300..

total above 2100...GOOD on a gym day.

 hunger: still very hungry thru morning, but was happy to get up later today and go to lunch after 4 hours instead of 5.  still not staying particularly on track but def working on lowering calories. i'd be very happy with 2100 cals for today :-) and i'm looking forward to a strong workout tonight :)  this weekend with calories should be decent being that i will be busy and occupied rather than at home :)


I have a question regarding online morality in facebook groups...lol.  More and more often, i find myself in strange predicaments over the past couple years. Maybe in fact it's my own wrongdoing..

Here’s the story, please be honest and tell me what you think:


I was in a friend’s online facebook private group.  She made it and there’s no fee or contributions or sales in it. It’s just a page called “Hot Trotters” and it’s for both men and women to post about fitness or just be in the group and to like / comment on members’ posts that are in the Hot Trotters group.  The friend who made the group, who I only know from the neighborhood and in my gym, invited me bc she knows I am into fitness as I met her at the gym and she I guess thought I’d make a good member of her Hot Trotters Facebook group page.


She posts a lot of videos of photos of herself working out – after all, it is her page! So of course it makes sense and since I like to motivate and inspire, I’ve always liked her stuff and made comments here and there. I also post in there, as she has invited us to do so – so I’ve posted some pics or just a post to say I was at the gym and i have enjoyed being part of the group of people who post and like/comment on my posts, etc…..


She recently invited a few more people to the group and said in a post “Let’s welcome these new guys” and she listed their names. Very nice. So I said welcome and I said I hope they post their workouts! 


Well, when she saw my comment, that I hoped to see posts of their workouts ,  she called me out on what I said.  I didn’t expect it. She used caps letters in her writing and wrote something like “no one has TO POST their workouts and it is up TO THEM!” …something like that is what she wrote to me in front of all members there. ..


I went on to comment back (maybe I shouldn’t have?) and wrote that I was just welcoming them and I wasn’t trying to be forceful just welcoming them in the group!


I messaged her privately asking her if I  said something wrong and she said “Yes, you need to watch what you say…”to not be forceful to group members and that she had several members asking her why I was telling them what to do, she said!!!!!


Now, I continued and told her that it wasn’t my position to make anyone feel uncomfortable and I was just trying to be nice.

I thought the way she dealt with my comment was overboard and sort of bullying.  I wasn’t making anyone do anything. I was just suggesting they post…it’s a facebook page!  Isn’t fb all about posting and stuff? I didn’t say it was mandatory or anything…just I was interested to see a post! Is this so bad?


Is it because she’s the group leader and she just expects us to behave like animals and follow her without a brain in our own heads? Meaning, when she tells us towelcome them, does it seriously mean we cannot write more than welcome?


I told her privately that she embarrassed me in the way she called me out in that group page in front of people. I told her I expected more of her as a friend. She didn’t even read all my messages, simply saying that if I wanted to leave the group,  that is fine.  I was really shocked so was so concerned with what I wrote, except it is her page. But what I said was not demeaning or rude. I wonder why she couldn’t just respond to my message to everyone that posting is never mandatory, but instead she was rude to me..


I probably shouldn’t care but I do NOT like being told what to do.  I’m in her group for fun and support. But when I’m being supportive and just using fine language and saying nothing “wrong,” I will not be told I am wrong all because she’s the leader and doesn’t expect us to say too much of anything other than a like here and a comment there and nothing that I guess comes across as having a mind my own?


This once happened before with me, yes, in a group where the leader was selling products but I was only interested in the motivational part. It made sense for me to leave bc that leader was interested in making money and didn’t like my posts on food outside what she was posting (fine).


But in this group, where there’s no money or products involved, just support and KIND thoughts, I will not be told my comment is so bad when it was seriously a comment on what  goes on in the group. And for the leader of that group to call me out and say I am demanding and pushing others around. I was far from it. She took my comment too literally.  I defriended her and left the group, she further blocked me fully. 


Nobody likes being bossed around or told they are wrong…I feel she took me on the wrong side. I don’t join groups just to like and comment and not be able to write my thoughts at all…


I know it’s not a big deal, but was I wrong???? She has invited us in the past to post…so why when I saw I look forward to their posts am I so wrong? It must be bc I am not that fb leader of the page…and she wants to be in charge? It’s all I can think of. 

 Basically, I had a problem with her calling me out on something i said that i intended as a nice comment and thoughful and welcoming.  I didn't like how she kept saying i was forceful and making members do things, and that she said i needed to watch what i say. I thought she was rude, embarassing me, and telling me what is allowed and not - making rules for what is allowed for her members to say and not and i felt like instead of fun that she was essentially a bully towards me on her page.  I thought it was so rude she called me out instead of just saying that posting is ok, but not mandatory. I don't know why i need to be so careful of what i say when the intentions are only to motivate, inspire and welcome people. And being told to watch myself, and being spoken to like i did wrong, it seems way overboard on her part and so i told her and left the situation. but i let her know - i'm not gonna take that crap and not tell her that essentially she was bullying and forcing me to adhere to her strange rules about what i can and can't write.

Perhaps you guys have a better view of this situation than i?  (I doubt it though?)


Progress as of today: -1 lbs lost so far, only 5 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/08/2018:
I personally don't think you did anything wrong. She did say to welcome the new people......

horn_of_plenty on 05/08/2018:
lately i find myself in all these weird predicaments. maybe i'm just friends with weird folks, i just don't know !!

graindart on 05/08/2018:
Just one of the many reasons I dumped FB a couple years ago......

horn_of_plenty on 05/08/2018:
lol yes sometimes things are taken completely out of context :-(

bearcountrygg on 05/08/2018:
What you said was encouraging...and welcoming...I think the problem lies with her...like you said...it's her page...so I guess she makes the rules there....don't take it personally.....the world as we know it is changing rapidly...if we are trying to help someone...and they don't want the help...that is their right....and we will know that they make statements....but don't want feedback.....maybe you should start a page like that yourself.....you would make an awesome trainer....looking back at the name of her page...maybe it wasn't as much about working out as it was about her posting pics of her for attention from guys.

horn_of_plenty on 05/08/2018:
ty, agreed. it makes me sad when things like this occur. i honestly don't have the motivation or desire to make my own page haha...that's why i liked being part of hers. i do know this whole topic sounds quite kiddie / childlike. glad to be done :)

bearcountrygg on 05/08/2018:
You don't need that...that's for sure....if it stops being fun...it becomes a chore....best just leave it behind. There are other huge groups out there...where you won't know the others personally...maybe that would be a better option.

horn_of_plenty on 05/08/2018:
yes. i am in a few... :)

and yes it felt more like a chore. thanks again!

Donkey on 05/08/2018:
I don't think you did anything wrong, but even if you did by posting, your friend was even MORE wrong by calling you out in front of the group. WTH - no, you take off the group and address it in an IM. She was RUDE. (Sorry)

horn_of_plenty on 05/09/2018:
Lately, some people i have been friends with socially i have begun to have these sort of strange issues with...it could be me or them or a mix of both. either way, it's frustrating in general to face conflicts with people that i wish i never had to face...you know, maybe it is normal in life to have to deal with some of these types of people. i can learn and grow and i guess it shows i have some boundaries and self respect where i will not just take any type of treatment (no matter how poor it may be!) from people without speaking up. Honestly, i guess i'm right to speak up - it just blows things up when i do and when i let people know how their actions make me feel in turn it pisses them off a bit too! it's probably well-deserved in their cases though...

it will be interesting when i see her next at the gym...she goes to my gym this woman with the group page. i plan to say hi and wave - and that is all! she will probably be angry still or even may ignore me, but i just don't care anymore!

horn_of_plenty on 05/09/2018:
the way she called me out in front of the group - she probably did it to clear things up for the group if they really think i was demanding they post lol...and also showing she's the "leader." either way, she has an interesting personality herself and i don't think she has many close friends - so either way i'm saying it very well could be she didn't choose the best way to deal with the situation, as you said.

Horn_of_plenty - Monday May 07, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.0

And now scale says 115. So since last week, it has moved from 113...to 114...to 115. If it's muscle, i'm ok with it....i may try to my best to forget the scale...more importantly is seeing improvements in strength and cardio...


kombucha 30

7am Bigger Breakfast: wrap 70, avocado 160, sausage 150, garlic/pepper, orange 100, almonds 100, coffee 50. Like an actual big breakfast wow not what i needed but at least HEALTHY..

9:00AM Snack: almonds 140

lunch: chicken breast with some skin, a carrot, a pepper. 400. and a few pretzels bc i am not trying to low carb it and feel deprived


coworker gave out small chocolates from easter...i ate it! lol 60 cal. better than deprivation, sorry.

1310 :)

snack: asian pear type of fruit: 150...today it's about taking the long walk home from the bus, 1.5 mi. then dinner and cooking some veggies for the rest of the week..making salad, etc. almonds 80-90


dinner: light ice cream 280 with accidentally too much whipped cream 250 lol. i did do pretty well today and plan to do well this week still ! had a wonderful walk home holding a heavy leather jacket  / my bag had to be around 20 lbs at least! i was happy to be home, the walk otherwise was the best!!!! 550, tops.

1950 total, and this week i have a plan - keep cals at an average around 2000 or less. the good news is that i did very well calorie-wise...and i have to keep on doing good! :) by having a slightly smaller lunch, with fresh veggies rather than cooked ones, i am starting to do better again.

Sat 2200

Sun 2150

Mon 1950

3day: 2100...i'm working to bring it lower, def used to eating much more as of the past months.

i enjoy having treats over food sometimes. not changing that. i just need to watch portions at times in general and perhaps try for less in the mornings before lunch, but not much less ;)

I am sticking to this plan, will try to eat lunch SLOWLY so it feels more filling. I'm sick of gaining weight so i'm def sticking with this plan today - no extra grazing or meals...as donkey and i have discussed, i do feel that my eating as gotten a lot worse lately and i'm snacking and using food as a delay tactic and emotionally more and more.

And since this is a short week, i will def try to make it right and get the run in on Wednesday. I'm still a beginner at this point - only running up to 1/4 mile at a time (one time around the track then walking and so on).  Once again, i think that starting work at a more optimal 8am is going to help me GREATLY...I do not have the big snacking problem in the afternoon, it's mostly a morning issue...and being able to sleep till a more optimal time seems more beneficial too.


Bed early and smiling that my alarm clock is no longer waking me up before 5am.

And promising myself a renewed resolve to get more and more into jogging - weekends i have no problem doing it, and now i'm resolving to do it, 1x during the workweek, preferably WEDNESDAYS and outdoors. If it rains, i am going to just do the steps in my apt building, for like 15min or less. The end :)


My Boss was in and he said somethng that totally led into who i'm assisting now (and she comes in at 9) so i kindly offered to come at 8am instead of 7am so i'm working with her for a bigger portion of the day...! DONE! I feel better. Even though many people are beginning work in NYC at 7am, I have personally chosen to NOT CONTINUE being one of them! :)

I am really happy that today is my LAST day of 7am start for awhile! cheers. I just hated starting at 7...starting at 8am may take a few more minutes in commute, but, as we all know, things are give and take...nothing is a perfect deal!

But now my meals and eating are more in line also with a more normal schedule - like not having dinner like an early bird special anymore at 4:30-5:30..but a tad later...i hope for this to give me less stress.

Progress as of today: -1 lbs lost so far, only 5 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/07/2018:
Mine went up this morning too...for no reason I can see.....it's a mystery!

horn_of_plenty on 05/07/2018:
yeah, not cool!

honestly, if it were mostly muscle i'd be ok with it - just buying a bigger size clothes is what i'm not as happy about.

bearcountrygg on 05/07/2018:
I hear you...I had gotten rid of some of my bigger clothes...so I'm very limited right now...but NOT buying a bigger size.

horn_of_plenty on 05/07/2018:
yes, not a fan of shopping for a new wardrobe, will not happen.

happy-1 on 05/07/2018:
Augh... don't give in and buy clothes. They are a terrible use of money.

Horn_of_plenty on 05/07/2018:
once, i totally lost control and totally had to - i had gained SO MUCH WEIGHT and it took years to then take it off! #neveragain! lol

bearcountrygg on 05/07/2018:
Not to mention...new...bigger clothes encourage us to stay big because we have new big clothes!

horn_of_plenty on 05/07/2018:
Yes they do!

bearcountrygg on 05/07/2018:
We cannot do that...we have to make do...TEMPORARILY!!!!!!

horn_of_plenty on 05/08/2018:
That's what i'm doing, yes... :)

Horn_of_plenty - Sunday May 06, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.0

114 on the scale so still working to bring that number down as I used to wake up in summer and winter with it saying 110.

Not the best Breakfast but also not the worst in calories or even nutrtional fat/protein/carbs ratio: protein cookie and whipped cream 500. Quick extra snack: peanut butter 100.  600. diet coke

lunch: english muffin 150, avocado 150, lox 100, celery 50. 450

snacks: banana and light ice cream 300 and some bites of chicken i was putting together for lunch this week..of course lol.


Dinner: over at a friend's house...she'll have veggies and cooking meat, she asked me to bring the fruit...sounds like a plan :)...had pretzels 200, very small frank and so tasty in a bun 300, lots of veggies 150, fruit 100

overall cals around 2150


I also know that i have to better plan my jogging - but i will say that i've done it EVERY WEEKEND so far. I just now need to implement a weekday for it. Now i fixed my bike, i can ride it to the running track and not even need to use my car, which is great.  This will help me TONS with getting to the track...so now, I just have to make a plan and stick with it. It's been like a month of just getting into running and if i can manage one more day at 2x per week, i'll improve. Right now, i'm happy i do it again, but now it's about trying to improve.

At the gym, i wasn't improving for a long time since Winter as i was sick a bit in January and also was taking a class and def had a hard time with being consistant. Now, after being consistant for around 2 months, and probably even more than that, I notice some improvement again at the gym. Such a wonderful thing!! So, once again at age 35, I can say i see improvement with dedication and hard work. 

I hope i can say the same for running. If i could manage it 3x per week, that would be best...but that's pushing it. So, the goal now is to do it 2x....meaning that Wednesdays i should reserve as running days after work!!!! :-) Will try this approach for the rest of the month of May.


I know it's weird i want to adjust my work hours to start at 8 instead of 7am bc i  feel i'm gaining weight, but, as nobody will have a problem with my difference in work times, i may as well do what feels better for me.

I think the extra sleep / later wake up will be healthier for me as waking up just before 5am doesn't seem right anymore....and is very difficult to do day in and day out - it seems i just really got used to it now after 2.5months of doing it,  but i know my body and i know it'd be better sleeping later..

i also think that waking up later will be healthier for me with producing results with exercise...this is also why i am thinking to go back to 8am. also with hunger - i was thinking that i'd be eating less thru the morning if i am at work at 8 instead of 7...for all these reasons, i may ask to work at 8am-4:30 instead of 7-3:30.  there are advantages and disadvantages to both situations, but like i said, things need to change for me and i think i'll just deal wtih a later dismissal time and more crowded busses lol bc i don't think 7am is doing be particularly any good.

Progress as of today: -1 lbs lost so far, only 7 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/06/2018:
One thing that used to happen to WW people was estimating points....and once they went back to measuring and counting...they usually found that they were either over estimating too high and cheating themselves...or too low and eating more than they thought......possibly counting and measuring for a day may show some discrepancies.

Horn_of_plenty on 05/06/2018:
with me it's not the overestimating...or at least i pride myself on decent calorie counting in the past..

for me, it's KNOWING that my body is NOT burning 2100 cals per day, but that i continue to eat that way, and i'm facing the facts that i will gain weight.

it seems that i'm not burning as much as i used to when i was running last Spring/Summer/Fall and i really need to stop eating as much as though i were burning more...if you get what i mean.

also, even though most people wouldn't consider this option, part of my reason to start work later is the fact that i hope to not be eating all morning like i do now. i feel my eating habits, hunger, and work hours aren't going well together. and since we all know 7am is early, and not everyone at work starts then, i'm going to ask for 8am going forward.

bearcountrygg on 05/06/2018:
One thing I've found now is that it is really easy to find calories for just about every food by googling it.

Horn_of_plenty on 05/06/2018:
most foods i eat i know the cals :)...the rest i try to estimate based on what i know...it is def easy to google it...and even when you google it, it could be off based on your portion size to theirs.

one reason i don't eat a lot of pizza and those types of products is that it's really hard to estimate those calories due to huge variations of pizza due to crust thickness, type of sauce, amount of cheese, etc....and also that food never satisfied me...anyways...yeah. i appreciate your comments :)

i think my problem is basically eating too much for my calorie burn. the weight has come on slowly but surely. meaning i NEED to cut calories again. working at 8am could help, as i'd still eat lunch at noon but have less eating going on in the morning hours.

Donkey on 05/06/2018:
It's nice when we see improvements in our workouts :-) Did you jog today?

horn_of_plenty on 05/07/2018:
Finally yes and I know if I want to improve I need to do it more often :)

Horn_of_plenty - Saturday May 05, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.0

Happy Saturday!

Easy breakfast: protein cookie and Diet Coke 360 - will shower and go out to jog soon at the track.

Snacks before lunch and all healthy 200, peanut butter and samples in supermarket

Healthy lunch at home with parents: big piece salmon 550?, chips 100, cooked kale 100, cabbage salad 50. 800 I think.

1350 and all healthy...

300 granola bar and coffee and later before gym banana

1650 will keep today around 2000-2050.

2200 lol this must be why I am gaining !

I just slept and slept last night - seems the older I get, the more important sleep is! I didn't get good sleep Thursday into Friday and really suffered at work bc of it - also I am considering starting work at 8 instead of 7 bc I am not sure 7am is doing me any good...

Saving jog for Sunday and was productive Saturday doing errands before seeing parents and gym will be later this afternoon.

Jogging is still not an ingrained activity at all but I have been at least doing it on the weekends :)

Progress as of today: -1 lbs lost so far, only 7 lbs to go!

graindart on 05/05/2018:
Have someone to jog with? or just slap on some headphones?

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
It's more that it's a long day for me and I lack the energy to jog after work :/ I have to do better.

Donkey on 05/05/2018:
Could you try a later start time at work on a temporary basis, say, for a week, maybe, and see how that works for you?

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
I might have to....as I think this might me part of the weight gain problem also...and I am just too tired in the early morning I think.

Donkey on 05/05/2018:
Have a good jog - looks like beautiful weather in your area this morning!

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
It was beautiful today :) jog will be tomorrow :)

bearcountrygg on 05/05/2018:
What brand of Protein cookies do you like???

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
They are big so sorta high in cals but tasty also sorta high in sugar but not overboard ....Len and larrys I think

Maria7 on 05/05/2018:
That is good that you are able to sleep well.

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
yes it felt great!

bearcountrygg on 05/05/2018:
I have those cookies...but I'm not fond of the taste....I think they are 2 servings aren't they?

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
Yeah but who could open it and eat half !? I eat the whole thing.

bearcountrygg on 05/05/2018:
I know....just their way of making the calories look acceptable at a glance....an advertising ploy!

horn_of_plenty on 05/05/2018:
Agreed !!!!

Horn_of_plenty - Friday May 04, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 115.0

6am Home: finished off a kombucha 30

7:30am Breakfast: banana 120, coffee 80,...wrap 70, 2 eggs 150, some cooked roasted squash leftovers 100.

9:40am Snack:protein bar 210, 2 girl scout trefoil cookies...i guess i'm tired. just so hungry. oh and had another coffee...that's probably the problem here!


Lunch: from home: wrap 70, roasted squash 100, frank 150, celery 50: 400.



Dinner: TBD ...craving a big veggie meal...we'll see....ah yes, i have veggies at home, will make a dressing at home, with some popcorn and some lox on an english muffin with butter and jello for dessert. done.

Around 2200 bc ice cream def had lots of extra pecans !

Weekly avg: 2110 very little exercise bc came home and didn't go back out


My weight on the scale this AM was once again higher than it's been in perhaps a YEAR. 115 right in the morning. no good. def gained like 5 lbs now...been very hard getting it off.

i def need my averages i guess to be lower, not more than 2000 cal a week. also, my stomach is showing gains too...hopefully hormones will be back in check also in a couple days or less...bloating has been very bad this time around!

lately i wonder how to change back to lower cals...and also i don't think starting work at 7am has been good for me...that i'd rather start at 8...considering this...but that also means that i'll be getting out later, which may not be such a bad thing.

honestly, i'm not even functional the first hour at work, at all, unless you consider drinking coffee and going online productive - really...but then again, getting out of work early is great.

Progress as of today: -1 lbs lost so far, only 7 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/04/2018:
We are having franks today too.......we get the Kogel franks...but that may only be a Michigan thing.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
yes, i haven't heard of those!

graindart on 05/04/2018:
I prefer starting work earlier because there's less distraction for me with fewer phone calls and fewer emails that need answering.

Calorie-wise, maybe just switch up a few items that you're eating daily to lower calorie equivalents. For example when I was craving hotdogs awhile ago, I went with Hebrew National 97% fat-free without a bun since they're only 45 calories each.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
i guess you are totally right. lately, i'm having these high fat cravings. for avocado and fatty meats. i don't know why...but i guess it could help me to just have less, again.

i guess i have to find it in me to be satisfied on less somehow...i'm thinking delay my breakfast, somehow.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
but i am just not a fan of delay...lol.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
but i guess to get what a person wants, there has to be some give and take...i can't i guess have everything i want (weigh less) and not give up something for it.

graindart on 05/04/2018:
I'd love to go back to eating pizza 2 or 3 times per week and drinking regular Mtn Dew daily again. I'd love to go to a buffet again and "get my money's worth". There's a bunch of things I'd love to do if they didn't have consequences. In the future I very well may choose food over health again, but for now my decision is to pursue a decent level of healthiness.

For me, I have to have a black and white plan set out to be successful. My food intake has specific rules that I try to adhere to daily. The plans change, but I've been trying to give a plan 4 weeks in a row to see if they're worth continuing. My workout plan is written out and I do certain things in a certain order on certain days. While I'm working towards a goal currently, my food & exercise are more robotic than fun (thankfully the rest of my life doesn't have to be that way).

Maybe consider setting up a strict daily plan of what and when you're going to eat and drink for the next week while at work. Drop the simple sugars for a week? (banana, cookies, protein bar unless it's extremely low sugar)

I usually try not to mention specific foods, since everyone is different, so please don't take offense by any specifics I mention here. Some people do fine with carbs (my wife). Other people fall off the wagon when they just catch a glimpse of a cookie (me).

So if I was HOP, my at-work plan for next week would be:

* no coffee or any other beverage other than plain regular water throughout the work day

6am - kombucha

8am - wrap, 2 eggs, squash or other lower-sugar vegetable

10am - 100 calorie bag of microwave popcorn

lunch - wrap, meat and/or cheese of some sort, lower-sugar vegetable

2pm - 4 different flavors of sugarfree jello

end of work - pop another 100 calorie bag of popcorn and a coffee to go for the ride home (if that works on public transportation)

dinner - whatever you want to eat / drink as long as you end the day around 1900 calories (I'd still skip the bananas, granola bars, cookies, and other sugary carbs.)

Again, the above is just the plan that I'd try for a week. The first few days of change for me usually suck, but then you adjust.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
yes, i think i need to eliminate the bananas again...and thank you for the suggestions, they are very good..

the popcorn will derail me, but great idea for the sf jello to maybe bring to work as snacks.

overall, i DO need a revised plan for weightloss bc the current one is not working out!

and yes, the coffee is screwing with my appetite i think, but maybe i can try decaf. we'll see..i need a slight overhaul.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
and i do need like a 1900 cal food plan instead of today which is going to be 2200 based on my morning appetite.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
actually, maybe i can fix my totals today....and end around 2000-2050 :-) !!!!

thanks again, Gains. seems i need some little fixes!

graindart on 05/04/2018:
Yep, everyone has different foods that work or don't work for them. What may work for some, may be a trigger food for others to go off the deep end.....

happy-1 on 05/04/2018:
"7:30am Breakfast: banana 120, coffee 80,...wrap 70, 2 eggs 150, some cooked roasted squash leftovers 100."

You are hungry in the am because you don't get enough fiber. Try my overnight power oats:

1/3 cup steel cut oats 1 scoop vanilla protein powder 1 tbsp cinnamon 1 tbsp maca 1 tbsp flax meal 1 tbsp chia 1 tbsp hemp hearts 1 tbsp coconut oil 2 tbsp fresh shredded ginger (i make bulk ice cubes in trays) Add water and cover the night before. Becomes probiotic. Stir and nuke 1 min in the morning. You will force yourself to eat the rest of the day and poop enough to break the plumbing.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
but doesn't the banana, the squash, and the high fiber wrap have fiber? i will say though that my food lacks VOLUME...perhaps i need to eat different stuff...thank you for the tips..

the oatmeal sounds good...it's nice it is not meat based as most of my breakfasts are these days..either eggs, lox, sausage, salami. maybe i need a more liquidy meal like oatmeal...

happy-1 on 05/04/2018:
The coconut oil first thing in the am triggers your body to burn fat all day and kills fat cravings. I've cut out cheese entirely except when I am falling off the wagon.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
ok, thank you for good advice! i will look into using coconut oil :)

happy-1 on 05/04/2018:
The caffeine in your coffee is an atioxidant and triggers fat burn. Switch to coconut oil, cinnamon and stevia as your creamer and see the difference

happy-1 on 05/04/2018:
The wraps I buy in the market have fiber but not a lot of water volume so they don't have the same satisfaction feeling for me as the oatmeal. And I dunno why but oats that have soaked overnight are more filling than oats I make on the stove in the morning. I can only guess that those little molecules open up more and get more gluey???? Slide into those little cillia fibers lining my stomach and say shut up, you're not hungry.

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
yes, i MUST do something to feel less hungry in mornings at work.

Maria7 on 05/04/2018:
Hope you have a good day. :-)

bearcountrygg on 05/04/2018:
What food do you hate the most that is portable? When you are hungry between meals...then allow yourself to have that and only that....you may just decide you are not that hungry after all....and don't forget...when you are hungry...you are burning fat!

horn_of_plenty on 05/04/2018:
Good tip - I have to overcome this :)....I def need to change things - also thinking no more kombucha for now

Donkey on 05/04/2018:
I was going to mention the bananas too. You've gotten some really good ideas from others, as far as nuts-and-bolts, so I'm going to just mention to think about the emotional part of your morning hunger. A couple of things to think about (observations from an online diary, so take it for what it's worth...):

I think you did do better when you had a later starting time to your workday. So make sure you're not eating because you're actually tired. If you're going to stay with your early start time, then keep in mind that it does take time to adjust, especially if you're more of an afternoon or evening person.

Also, you had mentioned a week or two ago that you found yourself using food as a delay tactic at work. So just make sure the "morning hunger" isn't that.

I start my day at around 5:30a but start work at 9am. I don't eat breakfast until I'm at work, but I do have coffee w/cream and water (I aim for 24 ounces - 3 cups) before then. The coffee gets me started (in more ways than one) and the water keeps me full until I can eat at work. Maybe you could drink on your way to work, so that you arrive fuller? IDK...

Alls I'm saying by what I do is that I delay eating as long as I can.

Oh, and I have oatmeal as my breakfast most days. In a container I can cover: 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 cup almond milk, 1/4 cup walnuts, 1 TBSP of dried cranberries. Put in the microwave for a minute. Cover, and take it with me, so that the oatmeal continues to cook, while covered. When I get to work, pop it in the weak microwave oven we have at work for another minute or so, just so it's hot, and eat.

Donkey on 05/04/2018:
I've been thinking more about your earlier starting time. Made me remember that when I had a job where the commute was at least an hour, I gained about 15 pounds. Of course, the job was also much more stressful than where I work now, too -- I wasn't happy with the work I was doing.

I remember when I went to interview at the place I am now, I had gotten to the point where it was very hard to wear my interview suit for too long because it was too tight. My wedding ring was also too tight -- I could only wear the ring, not the engagement ring too -- so thankfully the interview was only 20 minutes or so. Ugh....

I started the unhappy job at around 135 and left it just under 150.

Horn_of_plenty - Thursday May 03, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 112.5

New Day!

2150 grand total. 2095 6day

Home: nothing...def wasn't in mood for kombucha bc my stomach is still working itself out right now and i do not need any help with digestion right now!

Work: banana 120, coffee 80, mix of lightly salted almonds and peanuts 200. 400

snack: had half of an orange.

Breakfast around 9am: wrap 70, lox 50, avocado 160. garlic and pepper. 280-300.

12:30pm Lunch: from home :) wrap 70, frank 140, avocado 160,  celery sticks 450 tops

2pm almonds 100 or so. and a coffee at 3pm. was faling asleep, quite literally.

Doing well after lunch and praying i feel less hungry after this week...!

Dinner: eating before i stop home to get my gym clothes - thinking subway 400.

snack: whole pint, 400 cal, because i didn't want to put it down of really good chocolate brownie ice cream...which did i think give me gas this AM (FRIDAY)...lol TMI i know


Progress as of today: 1.5 lbs lost so far, only 4.5 lbs to go!

happy-1 on 05/03/2018:
Feel better!

horn_of_plenty on 05/03/2018:
stomach almost all better...all better i'd say, actually :)

bearcountrygg on 05/03/2018:
Maybe chewing gum would help the hunger....I keep forgetting that.

horn_of_plenty on 05/03/2018:
it does help and i have been doing it lately :)

bearcountrygg on 05/03/2018:
Of course maybe the gas is from the gum??????

horn_of_plenty on 05/03/2018:
oh def some of it !!! :)

Horn_of_plenty - Wednesday May 02, 2018
(counting calories/walking/elliptical/weights)
Weight: 112.5

home: drank kombucha at like 4am as i felt so bloated bc i hadn't used the bathroom since Sunday and wasn't going to work today like that...it fixed a lot of my issue thankfully. 70

Breakfast: coffee 50 (shouldn't right now but it's filling in the morning - it's bad for cramps and stuff), avocado with added pepper and garlic 160 on english muffin 150 with egg/egg white 100

Snack: TBD, i think a protein bar and banana...not a day or week to really limit myself.330

Lunch: really tasty and healthy :) very happy. some salad with a light balsamic dressing 150-200, salmon 250-300, piece of cheese and couple small cheese tortellini 100: 600 tops and i feel good though tired (but i feel that everyday after lunch no matter what i eat lol). 

Snack: half orange 50

1500...really tired, i'm happy to take the bus, get off early, walk, and go to bed very early tonight...like possibly right after dinner.

Dinner: i think food at home..i have tasty squash and all kinds of things...maybe mashed cauliflower and my squash and a little protein (frozen but it's quite tasty with a little added flavor). i'd like to go to bed early and limit the eating once i get home...have another good day for this week under my belt :)...i may just have jello and whipped cream. tired.jello and whipped cream habit will die down eventually........at least the rest of the day was healthy.

Went overboard at dinner 775 cals

Total cals today is 2275.

5day: 2083




Overall i'm doing good, just a little low energy / body aches due to hormones. I have lots of bloating and thigh cramps right now...would rather be home sleeping / pooping honestly. stomach is out of whack. it's hormones. i'll be far better by Friday. Happy to get extra sleep tonight as last night was not that great. I took two tylenol to alleviate most of the pain.

Progress as of today: 1.5 lbs lost so far, only 4.5 lbs to go!

bearcountrygg on 05/02/2018:
Oh...thigh cramps are the worst.....More liquids...will help it all.....feel better

happy-1 on 05/02/2018:
Feel better! Hugs. I know the feeling.

graindart on 05/02/2018:
Got on a squash kick a month or two ago and was enjoying them almost nightly. Acorn is probably my favorite, followed by spaghetti. Butternut is a distant 3rd.

horn_of_plenty on 05/02/2018:
Delicata is awesome - it's easy to cut even raw and you can totally cut it up and slather a bit of oil around each piece and every for awhile like 45 min till browning - like fries!

horn_of_plenty on 05/02/2018:
But not high cal like potato

Donkey on 05/02/2018:
Ah those hormones... right there with you.

horn_of_plenty on 05/03/2018:
this round wasn't the best and wasn't the worst. low energy this round.

happy-1 on 05/02/2018:
I refer to PMS as "channelling satan" because that's what I feel like. The last 2 cycles have been a lot less psycho. I think it's the maca powder I'm putting in my oatmeal every morning.

bearcountrygg on 05/03/2018:
Left all that behind at 48 with a total hysterectomy....which comes with it's own problems...

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