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bearcountrygg - Monday Dec 30, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

We are having the funniest weather here...it rained all day yesterday...totally POURED rain all night and into this morning...and suddenly it all turned to snow and we are on our way to getting snowed in......The winds were so strong yesterday that it actually blew a closed garage door open...........blustery/soaking wet and then lots of the cold white stuff piling up.

A squirrel on the bird feeder...but squirrels have to eat too.

Have I mentioned that I love the sound of 2020???????

2020 is perfect vision..........it's the beginning of a new decade.......it's the beginning of a  new year...a fresh start........and I fully intend to make it work for me.....I'm looking forward to posting my plans for 2020 tomorrow.......and when that clock strikes midnight.....it will signal so many new and exciting things to be accomplished.........and I fully intend to stay accountable daily, weekly, and monthly here. 

 

innerpeace on 12/30/2019:
I hope it doesn't find it's way to Cleveland.

bearcountrygg on 12/30/2019:
It might not.....we have a friend in Saranac ( lower Mich).....and he says the snow has stopped there as of a half hour ago......so maybe you won't get it...but it has been pretty intense her......it's been snowing for an hour at least and d is already out shoveling...just an attempt to keep up with it...it's wet snow....and heavy.


Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/30/2019:
looking forward to you staying with us, here on DD! That's a beautiful photo from your neck of the woods, literally!

bearcountrygg on 12/30/2019:
Windy here again......now freezing rain......I think we have seen almost all of the weather in the last 2 day except warm and balmy...LOL


Donkey on 12/31/2019:
Beautiful photo! And you're right, 2020 is perfect vision for this coming up year, perhaps? I like it!

bearcountrygg on 12/31/2019:
I think it's perfect!!!



bearcountrygg - Sunday Dec 29, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Not a quiet weekend around here...lots of police presence and then ambulance activity.........and we have no idea what was happening.  Just like being back in the city again.  Roads are iced and rutted but when you get to the blacktop they are fine...........I'm staying home today anyway.......will have to make a trip out eventually in the next few days for perishables...but that can wait.  New years eve always finds me waiting up to watch the ball drop in Times Square but D will have already been in bed for 2 or 3 hours by that time...LOL......

I'm so looking forward to making some serious changes........I've been setting things up and listing and planning and I'm excited to get started.

I plan to photograph every meal next year and I can guarantee that it won't be pretty....LOL.....freezers need to be emptied of leftovers....pantry needs to be emptied of expired things......and I am determined to reach a wt of somewhere between 115 and 130................until then....I will ignore the scales and judge by what size clothing I'm wearing......besides clearing out the freezers and pantry I fully expect to clear out a huge amount of clothes that don't fit once and for all..................I want these spaces back and 2020 will be the year that happens.  I also plan to use all kinds of things up before replacing them....it will be a year of saving money by not shopping also.........buying things when we are not in need of them at that time will stop in 2020. 

The fact is that the more stuff we have, the more stuff we have to take care of....and I'm getting tired of stuff......so I will enjoy using things up.....looks like a new sport for me.

I thrived on living on a schedule for years because of family, work and school........but got lax about it with retirement....to the point where I have been fighting any kind of plans or scheduled days........but with that.....I got lazy and things piled up and then took a lot of work to get causght up again...so i'm also going to be scheduling my days so that things don't get behind because i'm not enjoying that feeling. 

I'm going to finally get all of the boxes and bins in the basement opened ( found some that were hiding the other day...I have no idea what is in them ( my parents or our things that moved with us)....but it will get done as long as I write it in the planner....for me....the difference in having a planner and not having one is important......because i DO NOT LIKE IGNORING MY PLANNER.....what it says goes...funny how I don't like to mark them up in a non productive way...I want those pages to be followed to a T.  Sometimes I will have to go to plan B....but....I want that to be as seldom as possible....and if I'm rewarding myself with stickers...all the better...LOL.........Kind of funny how I will work my butt off for a sticker that is awarded  to MYSELF FROM ME!!!!!  Crazy but it works...and if it works then that is what I will do!!

 

Donkey on 12/30/2019:
I think photographing meals and snacks is a good way to keep yourself accountable without too much hassle. Don't feel like taking a picture? Then don't eat.

Also, taking a picture might give you a pause to determine if you're really going to eat what is on the plate, e.g., "Do I really want to eat these 3 donuts?" (LOL)

I also think it's a wonderful idea to have some sort of schedule or routine, to help add some structure to your day. At least I find it helpful for myself in days off.

bearcountrygg on 12/30/2019:
I'm committing to taking and posting pics of EVERYTHING in 2020....even if I don't want to!!! Making that promise right now.....I sure hope DD is here all next year...LOL And you are right...in the past..it really made me thing and many an evening i did not snack because I knew I would have to add the photo!! I have fought structure for some reason for the last several years...no more.....now it will be my guide.


Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/30/2019:
it certainly is nice to free oneself of stuff :)

i have lots of extra clothes, but do not throw them out because i figure one day i will want them - even completely never worn yoga / stretchy pants! it's a reminder to myself not to buy things in duplicate and triplicate! to buy when you need it only!

also, i love food photos! so i cannot wait for yours!

bearcountrygg on 12/30/2019:
I am so used to buying something is several colors if I like it....and I've also been very guilty of buying things because they were on sale...not needed...but good price....I definately would have been further ahead to just save the money. I need to follow D's shopping habit...and that is...when he NEEDS something...he only buys EXACTLY what he needs...he doesn't worry about the price because he knows he has to have that item...and then he wears it until basically he can't anymore....he likes duluth trading post clothes and it does make him happy when what he needs is on sale....but he has no problem paying full price if it isn't on sale....I'm sure that I have paid a lot of money over the years buying cheap on sale clothes when he has spent a lot less paying high prices for exactly what he needed. You are going to see a lot of funny food...LOL



bearcountrygg - Saturday Dec 28, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

The day started out well....realized last night that the sugar i have been inhaling the last few days was catching up with me...felt rather crummy and definately seemed to tie it to sugar. 

I started setting up my new year planner this morning and tweeking my resolutions.  Also set up a regular notebook for WW points, calories and food lists ffor each day.

I'm looking forward  to getting started on that. 

I will be concentrating on using up past dated foods here...they need to get used or tossed and I've decided to use them when possible.  Dates don't scare me on canned and packaged foods.  I want this stuff gone and won't be replacing that kind of thing...instead we have invested a little in things that are prepackaged for 25 years....( not a lot...just enough for a few days).......in case we get snowed in or something. )  Of course we always have food around anyway sowe will be fine with just that......I still believe in prepping...but will be doing it differently...no more stocking things with current dates.

I believe that 2020 has a really nice ring to it.  I think it will be very productive and a really good time to tweek my organization and health things.

Donkey on 12/28/2019:
Oh you and me both... I've been trying to pare down the sugar consumption, but it's definitely not keto. And it's been difficult, I must say, to resist.

I have started formulating goals - just writing down ideas while I'm at work. I had an epiphany on Friday, which I will write about in my own entry.

bearcountrygg on 12/28/2019:
I don't feel good when I eat sugar....BUT...the opportunity arises again...and what do I do? Why don't I ever remember how I feel after? Selective memory? UGH!


Maria7 on 12/28/2019:
We're eating food with bbd 2018 over here...still good. Always good to be prepared. I've got to replace my tv-snacking nites with something better. Any ideas? At least I now drink my coffees black as far as sugar goes. That helps a little and sometimes, like they say, a little helps a LOT.

bearcountrygg on 12/29/2019:
I'm going to be spending the year eating this stuff up.......and I'm not finding anything wrong with it for the most part...yesterday i threw some olives out that were in little packets that were leaking and some seaweed sheets that had greasy packages....but the cans are fine. I'm also going to be drinking more coffee and tea in the evening I think.....snacks at night often send me into a feeding frenzy...evenings are the worst for me.


Maria7 on 12/28/2019:
I meant to say replace my tv-snacking nites with something better than sweets.

bearcountrygg on 12/29/2019:
Evenings are a difficult food time for me too......I'm wondering about plain popcorn.


Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/30/2019:
2020 has a wonderful ring indeed!

and i believe a little sugar is good for you (although i also like to make some sugar free treats!)



bearcountrygg - Friday Dec 27, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Well this week is flying by..........

Keeping busy and trying to stay warm. 

Big laundry day here so stuck at home.  I can not believe how 2 people can make so much laundry....my parents wore clothes for more than 1 day...as well as towels stayed on the towel rack for days........we have gotten quite carefree when it comes to tossing things in the baskets..........and it looks like 10 people live here.........I'm wondering what other people do......how many days do they wear clothes before washing them?

 

Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/27/2019:
my parents wear their pants more than once before washing...and wear houseclothes even more before washing :)

i wear pj pants around the house (or fleece pants) up to a week before washing, but PJ shirts (tshirts) i change almost daily or every 2 days. i wash my outdoor shirts that i wear to work after 1 use only as well as any daytime shirt - 1 use before washing, but i wear pants a few times before washing them, depending how dirty they look/feel/smell!

bearcountrygg on 12/27/2019:
I think I need to start doing that too...I know growing up my Mom almost always hung my dresses up again and sweaters didn't get washed very often...I know she and my Dad wore their clothes for several days......I need to change my ways I think....Thanks for the response HOP.......I need to change my ways...besides...it's wasteful as far as water, detergent and electricity goes too.


happy-1 on 12/28/2019:
I remember the days when I had actual PJs. Oh how I miss wearing cute PJs to bed. If I were to buy some now they would be... black or grey with like arrows or something geometric maybe. Lace-trimmed for sure.

House clothes I have to wash almost daily. Everything I do here covers me in gross even though I wear an apron. I toss a laundry pod in the washer and leave the washer turned off, then change as I get dirty. I also add general neck-down (no whites, rags, floor pads, or dish cloths). Then whenever the washer is full... I run it before making dinner, with Lysol laundry sanitizer in the rinse cycle. It's almost always dry before bed or in the morning.

Outdoor and yoga clothes, daily errand clothes... I try to avoid washing and spot clean/Febreeze unless I sweat. Then I hand wash.

I have actual sweater dryers I keep assembled and that hide mounted to the wall behind the fake shower curtain that hides my vanity. Drying sweaters and knits flat retains shape and prevents pilling. I don't know why.

Anything fur-covered is sprayed with white vinegar and goes with dryer sheets into the dryer. Magic.

bearcountrygg on 12/28/2019:
I do wear pj's...and change them nightly..I would freeze here otherwise...winter because of cold weather, summer because of AC. Good ideas.


happy-1 on 12/28/2019:
Towels... I have the big fluffy guest towels, but I bought anti-microbial microfiber quick dry towels for camping and I just use those. Separate neck down/neck up. They almost never need washing and also easy to hand wash.

I have a black, covered plastic box I use to collect water in with the shower head hose when I shower while I wait for the water to warm up that I do my hand washing in.

bearcountrygg on 12/28/2019:
Good water saving idea there.


happy-1 on 12/28/2019:
Sometimes I dump that box out into the washer just to start the load faster during the fill cycle.

bearcountrygg on 12/28/2019:
Thanks for your hints Happy.......!!!


Donkey on 12/28/2019:
For me, there are quite a few things that do not get washed every time. I am a fan of Febreeze for certain things. Anything that gets spilled on or sweated on gets washed after wearing.

I take the 5th on towels, sheets, blankets.

bearcountrygg on 12/28/2019:
I love the way everyone else uses things longer before washing....I'm making some changes right now.....what I'm doing is just plain wasteful!



bearcountrygg - Wednesday Dec 25, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Merry Christmas!!!!   It will be a quiet one for us.....talking to kids on the phone....gifts were mailed a few days ago and we are just enjoying the quiet day.  With family hours away we don't get togerher for holidays anymore and instead visit throughout the year and ship gifts.  The spirit of the day is with us andi we do a lot of talking on the phone.

D and I will have roast beef with roasted veggies and godiva lava cake.............

I'm excited for new years day actually...lots of new habits to make.........I've been doing some things to make more new habits easier.......and i haven't really used a planner since the early 80's when I  was using a planner to set up my days hour to hour out of necessity.I was selling real estate at that time and had to keep track of clients and appointments....  Oddly enough I still have those 2 planners and they are quality...both leather...one beautiful red leather one but they aren't as large as i would like now...I could probably buy new pages for them ( they are notebook style)...and were handy at that time size wise.........but now i just need a desk size and don't plan on carrying it around....I love the new one I got from Michaels...spiral bound and large. 

I'm committed to making 2020 the year of creating new habits.......

I'm committing to getting rid of these last few pounds......

I'm committed to recreating new routines that work and free up more time for things I enjoy......

Donkey on 12/25/2019:
MERRY CHRISTMAS! I was wondering if you would be hosting or attending a party this year. It's kind of odd having Christmas in the middle of the week. Since you hadn't mentioned having a party, then I was thinking it might be a quieter holiday for you - and there is nothing wrong with that!

My yoga teacher Jeanne (who teaches hard yoga) had a quiet Thanksgiving with just her and her husband this year, she said. So some holidays are just work out that way.

Your enthusiasm is catching! I am ready!

bearcountrygg on 12/25/2019:
D's siblings had their Christmas party on Sunday this year but D really hates to stay away over night...so...we skip that now that we are so far away.......our kids don't like the drive either....but we had big parties for years and i will say that we are fine without that now...they were exhausting.


Horn_of_plenty on 12/25/2019:
your positive thinking and energy is quite wonderful, like donkey says too!, and is special to read especially on Christmas holiday. Your new goals and plans sound good as does the new Michaels' planner! i didn't know you had a Michael's by you! interestingly, when i was visiting my mom i went with her inside just to look just last weekend :)

bearcountrygg on 12/25/2019:
I had to order the planner online...no Michaels for hours around here...most things have to be ordered. I would have liked to have seen it in person but luckily it turned out perfect. 5 years ago I went from driving to any store you could think of to little access to much of anything....quite the switch....but it's do able.



bearcountrygg - Tuesday Dec 24, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Up and ready to get started again today.........balance is off yet blood sugars are good....ears are both plugged so that is the cause......press on anyway....things to do and no reason to use this as an excuse to get lazy. 

Coffee so far and not hungry.  Working hard to break some very old bad habits......technically...habits are not really that hard to break....I just have to replace them with something else....something like actually DOING the thing I'm avoiding!!!! 

Maria7 on 12/24/2019:
Love your outlook on breaking old habits...and like you say, habits are not really so difficult to break if we have substitutes to replace them with. Old habits were what got me into trouble each time I would reach my goalweight in the past...yielding to the same temptations that had added weight to me before...eating at nite...comfort foods for stress...I have managed to finally eliminate some bad habits (a big one was totally eliminating potato chips and other salty snack foods like them from diet that were high-fat, too)...I still am working on ice cream and give in to that sometimes...Bread is a big temptation that I have managed to lower consumption of but still have a little bread some days...What are some habits that you are working on replacing? Btw, happy Christmas Eve.

bearcountrygg on 12/24/2019:
You are doing great Maria!!!! You are absolutely correct...we can't change by doing the same things that got us into trouble. I have some bad habits that just come too easy to me...like thinking I will restart tomorrow, laying things down with the idea I will take care of it later, fighting any kind of a schedule ( in the past...scheduling motivated me...in the later years...I have rebelled against it, Putting too much food on my plate and just eating it because it's there...I have a lot to work on!!!


Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/24/2019:
what!? what are you avoiding? i thought you weren't avoiding anything!?

bearcountrygg on 12/24/2019:
I can easily put things off when I should have just done them and gotten them over with.....any chores that I don't like......


Donkey on 12/24/2019:
I understand where you're coming from. Hope you have a good day!

bearcountrygg on 12/24/2019:
Thanks............just little things but little things pile up.



bearcountrygg - Monday Dec 23, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Sleep was spotty last night....got up at 5 and went back to bed an hour later.......sleepy again  so an afternoon nap will happen too...otherwise...feeling great.....getting things done and staying busy....still coming up with ideas for 2020.....will probably be adding a gratitude journal and self care times.......I'm thinking that pics will probably happen on the daily rather I get tired of doing them or not....so quitting won't be an option.  I also need to use up what we have around here and make it work.........probably won't be pretty pics...LOL....but I guess that isn't a prerequisite.  I will definately be counting calories as well as points...and will keep a running notebook of those.  I will also plan on a spending moratorium.......will buy food for D as well as perishables for both of us.....I plan to not buy any new clothes for myself....No need to buy something that I don't plan on wearing very long......I will use what is already on hand.  Will still buy for D as he needs.  I feel ready right now And I'm looking forward to January 1st. 

Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/23/2019:
You sound so good, BCGG!

I love food pics, even if you are using up your food, i like to see what you are up to and eating :)

bearcountrygg on 12/23/2019:
I see 2020 as the year to expect more of myself......I'm looking forward to it! I love it when others post pics too!


Maria7 on 12/23/2019:
Good plan! Good goals! Wishing you and your Hubby a Merry Christmas and happy new year!

bearcountrygg on 12/23/2019:
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you too!


Donkey on 12/24/2019:
A gratitude journal - I like that :-)

bearcountrygg on 12/24/2019:
I've never done that before....and really don't know why.



bearcountrygg - Sunday Dec 22, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Looks like it will be a quiet Sunday.........Getting out a notebook and making a list of potential plans that can be incorporated in the new year.  I think I will possibly do things in stages....setsome goals...make a promise to myself that I do not have to enjoy it but I do need to do it anyway.  Anything worth doing is worth doing well so i need to work my way in to doing things automatically and then they will become habit.

I have never really set specific things to do at specific times with specific goals.......I have a planner waiting for January first and i will use it as a guidline for the year........no excuses, no changing plans...just following what i set out to do.

horn_of_plenty on 12/22/2019:
Once you start using the planner, you’ll have to share more about it with us :)

bearcountrygg on 12/22/2019:
I will....I'm counting on that to keep me in line!


bearcountrygg on 12/22/2019:
I ordered a new one that is hourly from Michaels...and I like the looks of it...I will also just keep a notebook for foods.....I'm looking forward to using it.


Donkey on 12/22/2019:
Key words "no changing plans" -- this is where I fall short.

bearcountrygg on 12/22/2019:
Me too....I give up on plans too quickly....that needs to stop for me.


Maria7 on 12/22/2019:
Like they say...'The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step'...

bearcountrygg on 12/22/2019:
Yes it does.......I will be giving more time to sticking with a plan next year...and less time looking for a new one.



bearcountrygg - Saturday Dec 21, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Up early again...the older I get...the happier I am to get up at 4:00 A.M. because I rarely go back to sleep again at that time.  We both had a cup of coffee and D had his breakfast and then we moved 4 pieces of furniture upstairs from the basement and I'm stoked.  I have been wanting these up here for a long time.  Luckily they all fit really well.  In moving 1 piece i found a lot of tablecloths that had belonged to my parentss...had no idea they were in there and of course only a month after I ordered a new one because I don't ave any big enough to fit our ddining room table.  Just another reason to begin focusing on the basement after the holidays.  I also found a really old world war 1 photo of my Grandfathers....that needs to find a home on a wall up here too. 

Not hungry yet but I think it will be some dinner lftovers....I never have a problem with eating dinner food for breakfast...in fact I think I just may like it better than breakfast foods that i find kind of bland. 

Not counting now until Jan 1st..........and then thinking that I need to get a lot more serious about what I eat........I need to decide and just stick with it...like it or not..........

I had a couple of very long phone calls with family yesterday....youngest son hasn't been feeling well.....and trying to get him to go to the doctor is about as hard as getting myself to go.........and now we worry about him and his wife that is already fighting a form of muscular dystrophy.  The other call was from one of D's sisters who is almost blind, an amputee and other serious health problems who is widowed and living alone and 2 years younger than me.  We had a good heart to heart and both came away feeling like we had a very good meaningful conversation.  But I came away with new worries that make me feel today like I need to keep busy and get things in order....which is what I do when i'm feeling helpless.....so be it.

I'm giving a lot of thought to what I want to achieve in 2020 and I noticed that my first thought was "can I do it?"....and then realized WHY I was questioning my abilities!  By questioning myself before even starting...I was giving myself an out and why would I want to do that? 

What if I set a program in place and then MADE myself do it????   Why is that such a difficult idea for me to process?  What if I did it rather I wanted to or not?  What if it became so routine that i did it without thinking and did not give myself any slack or even a choice for that matter.

My mindset makes me or breaks me........I need to make myself push on, when it's  difficult, when I don't want to anymore......I need to look at it as something I have to do...like it or not. 

I need to stay in my own lane and end up somewhere between 115 and 130 pounds by December 31, 2020

Edit...Happily surprised...Son called to say that he went to the walk in clinic this afternoon and they started him on antibiotics....so that makes us happy.......he missed a small Christmas party but didn't feel that he should expose anyone else to his germs either...so it worked out well....he just has had ear infections one after the other since birth and has been a tough bug to keep away for very long........we are happy he went...so sigh of relief here.

 

Horn_of_plenty on 12/21/2019:
how nice to discover old memories!!!

i read a story about someone who always had dinner for breakfast stating it had more nutrition and filled her up...

you are doing good, staying active!

bearcountrygg on 12/21/2019:
I'm feeling great!


Donkey on 12/21/2019:
While it's hard for me to get out of bed that early, I *do* love it when I get up early like that. For me it's 4:30am - I have more time for me in the mornings, and I love the peace of the early morning. So once I'm out of bed, it's great.

I love the idea of bringing items out to add to your decor, whether it's pictures or furniture. That's great!

It was brought to my attention that perhaps now is a good time to start thinking of 2020 goals. I confess that this hadn't even occurred to me to do yet. You ask a really good question that got me to thinking. Why do I not stick to a program or plan? Why do I let myself do that? I realize that's not exactly what your question was, but that is the question I have for myself.

bearcountrygg on 12/21/2019:
I think that between 4 and 5 A.M. in the morning and between 4 and 5 in the P.M. may be my 2 hours with the most energy...I seem to be driven during those times...huh...never realized that before....exactly 12 hours apart. I love to add new things that have a meaning...makes the house so much more personal.....I do think your thought was my question to myself....I start too often and then let myself slack off...I need to be tougher with myself and keep on until I reach a goal. I do get really wishy washy sometimes...I need to press on like it or not.....we are coming up to a good restart point....


Donkey on 12/21/2019:
And I'll start thinking of some 2020 goals for myself. :)

bearcountrygg on 12/21/2019:
Looking forward to hearing about your new year goals....great time to set some...!!!



bearcountrygg - Friday Dec 20, 2019
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Weight: 0.0

Just feeling really good here lately......up at 4:00 A.M. and after my coffee got really productive and emptied a cabinet, washed down and replaced some of it...........I'm  liking the way it's all turning out.  Thankfully the 1 bedroom closet is picking up the slack...pretty unconventional to have a pantry in the bedroom...but I've gotta do what I gotta do.  It works and that is all I care about right now.

The bedroom pantry will need an overhaul now...LOL

Eating just is so less important to me when I stay busy all day........I guess that is how I had so many slim years....

No need to count anything right now so not doing that....although i will probably start again after the holidays justt for the fun of it.....fun may not be the right word...LOL

I would really like to be between  115 and 130 in 2020......will see how that goes.

Donkey on 12/20/2019:
I had a chuckle over your comment about the bedroom pantry needing to be cleaned out now, lol. Were you able to get rid of stuff in your kitchen as you were reorganizing?

It might be a good idea to track food every once in a while. I wish I had a food scale so that, from time to time, I could measure portions of certain foods.

bearcountrygg on 12/20/2019:
I did find a few things to toss....found a few things I forgot about...a few small appliances to test out to see if they still work...and some will get donated once I get that done.....found a lot of outdated food which I will concentrate on using up in the new year.......ALL of the top shelves are now empty.....and they will stay that way...how is it that cabinets with doors still let grease cling to everything in a kitchen and inside of cupboards??? UGH


Horn_Of_Plenty on 12/20/2019:
yes, working hard and being focused with tasks def keeps the mind off food, especially if you are self-motivated on those tasks and 100% focused! i agree! also, taking care of kids uses SO MUCH ENERGY...i see my sister in the best shape of her life taking care of her 1 year old. she's constantly moving around and taking care of this boy and it keeps her mind off food.

bearcountrygg on 12/20/2019:
Busy is definately best!!! For sure.


innerpeace on 12/20/2019:
Cleaning out the pantry is a great idea. I found some sweetened condensed milk in my cabinet that expired in 2017. It didn't look quite right and I through this all away.

bearcountrygg on 12/20/2019:
Funny how we always find surprises when we clean out all that stuff that makes it's way to the back......My shopping is definatly going tom slow down until this stuff is gone...tiem to get creative.



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