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bearcountrygg - Wednesday Nov 24, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 126.0

First of all I want to thank Happy for reminding me about the benefits of whole foods and their affect on lowering inflamation.....I needed to be reminded of that...........I knew I was feeling better when eating eggs greek yogurt, veggies  and plain oatmeal............and then  when I added the corn muffins, lasagna and pancakes...The old bogged down, achy joints came back.  The fact is for me..........The basic foods are uninteresting and the packaged foods are fun....but  for how long???  The moments when I'm eating them is really not worth the hours of discomfort and pain.  

I'm so glad that Happy brought that up......I knew it...I forgot it......and I needed that reminder.

I think I will be fine letting ww run out next month....of course it will always be there to rejoin if needed.  I'm completely convinced that I can't stay withih their points and still get the calories I need per day at a minimum....I gave it the 2 weeks that they all talk about....and points are not working where calories do.  I'm hearing that the few that have regular in person meetings are being told by their leaders that they do not have the WW police watching them so do what they need to with the new program...I'm getting the sense that it is helping people but that they will need to stop following the program completely......it is good in theory but not in actual use.......and will have to be manipulated by each person individually ..............it is promoting healthy foods but not healthy calories..................and many found out the hard way a year or 2 ago that ended in medical problems......most with anemia.....and some other things.  

The leaders are telling their classes to choose what parts they will follow and just to do that.......whatever works.......I'm fine with that in a free program but don't feel the need for it in something that I'm paying for......so as of now I don't plan to renew it.  

I will have to continue to add lots of pure natural foods along with some other thinhs that are not natural in order to reach that 1,200 a day...I really cannot eat a bushel of raw or cooked veggies a day........meat is low ...points......I can't get to that number with pure whole foods alone.....and feel comforatable in my own skin......I don't have the capacity for that....so I will be mixing it up......and  doing what I need to do within reason........D likes me at 126....and I'm wondering why I'm letting a number control me.......it's just a number......health is more important.......I really don't want to go  back to skin and bones...I lived that way for many years and I caught every cold and bug that went around......I had no fat to carry me through the sick times....I also had no shape....I lost the curves...I lost the womanly figure.....clothes hung on me....I didn't "wear" them..............I recently looked at pictures from those days.......I was anemic......I was basically unhealthy.....so....I will listen to what Happy reminded me of last night......and I will listen to what D is saying about  womanly curves and forget  the numbers.....it makes sense.  

I think that for me .....a morning weigh in will keep me in a good place.......day by day maintenance done easy.  

Donkey on 11/24/2021:
Oh yes, many foods can help or hinder when it comes to inflammation. There are things that my Husband could do for himself (nutrition-wise) that he doesn't. Come to think of it, though -- I'm at that point where *I* could probably benefit from avoiding inflammation foods too. I think I do a pretty good job of avoiding processed foods, but I know I could do better.

Part of being a prepper does involve stockpiling foods that have been processed as part of the preservation process. Kind of a catch-22.

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
The stocked foods are mainly the wrong foods I agree.......so I will will work them in slowly....but if it ever gets to the point that the stores close for power outages etc...we will be glad to have them anyway......There is a lot of meat and vegetables in that pantry.


Maria7 on 11/24/2021:
That's what works best for me...counting calories and weighing every morning.

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
Thumbs up to that.....I'm there with you now Maria......


Jacky82020 on 11/24/2021:
Do what works best for you. And I’m sure WW will open you back with welcome arms any old time

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
Very true...but I think I can handle it now without putting it all back on......


horn_of_plenty on 11/24/2021:
i wanted to tell you, it was 32F this morning! cold!

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
Oh boy....You reached the freezing point now!!!


happy-1 on 11/24/2021:
Yay! Glad I could help!

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
I really needed to hear that...Thanks again!


happy-1 on 11/24/2021:
Prepping means stocking whole foods and packaged foods… but packaged foods are what you are supposed to eat last in case of real emergencies where you can’t cook or for morale… not first and daily.

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
Agreed........


happy-1 on 11/24/2021:
Put them behind beans and rice? Out of sight out of mind?

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
Can do........And right now if I keep the house stocked with fresh produce then we will concentrate on that.



bearcountrygg - Tuesday Nov 23, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 126.0

Just in a mood today............ wifi has been off and on.......

I can see that since I have been getting on the scale daily for the last 2 weeks.....The best days were when I ate boiled eggs, raw veggies and greek 0% yogurt

The days that were not as helpful were the days I ate corn muffins, pancakes and lasagna....( the losses were lower)

Basically I can lose eating literally anything but the losses are better with the boiled eggs, greek yogurt and raw veggies....and I can still lose eating the lasagna, pancakes and muffins but the serving sizes need to get a lot smaller.......the catch here is that lowering the serving sizes on the higher cal things still will leave be below 1,200 cals a day.................................................................

Both weeks on the new WW plan have gone okay.....it encouraged me to eat more veggies and fruit.......I lost both weeks.......and I was OVER POINTS both weeks.....which means I could not stay on plan with so few points and at the same time get enough cals( minimum 1,200)......so right now,.......the only use for it for me is that it is a handy place to look up calories.....

A lot of people took the assessment test multiple times until they got what they wanted....I took it once and answered the questions honestly.............

I know what to do...I just don't always want to do it...LOL

Progress as of today: 128.8 lbs lost so far, only -4 lbs to go!

Jacky82020 on 11/23/2021:
Boiled eggs! Thanks for the reminder. I will bust out my cute turquoise egg maker. It can do 7 hard boiled eggs. Also, thanks for the raw vegetable reminder. I bought celery last week when you mentioned it & it's sitting all abandoned at the back of the fridge. I seriously hate raw vegetables except tomatoes & think the celery will be ok.

bearcountrygg on 11/23/2021:
Maybe mix up a little of the PB2 or have some salsa as a dip.


Jacky82020 on 11/23/2021:
May try some salsa. Great idea! Even the powdered PB has too many calories for dipping. May try hot sauce or hot mustard. Or even lemon juice. Have big bottle in fridge for making ice tea.

bearcountrygg on 11/23/2021:
Agreed...the PB is not low cal.


Jacky82020 on 11/23/2021:
Forgot already, think it’s 100 per serving vs 200 on the real PB. Believe they extract the fat & leave the carbs & protein. Think the serving size is 2 T. I have a huge jar of the Walmart generic in the fridge. Tastes identical to me & a WHOLE lot cheaper than that name brand.

bearcountrygg on 11/23/2021:
I don't remember either...I think Jif is 190 for 2T though.......PB2 is a lot less.....I'm not a big fan of pb2......I add it to things and can't seem to taste it much....The one I have now also has coco in it and that may be why I'm not getting much flavor from it.


Jacky82020 on 11/23/2021:
I can tolerate foods such as powdered PB, even if it’s not as good as the real stuff. One of many compromises along the way to keep my weight down.

I do add cocoa & fake sugar to the Walmart powdered PB & sometimes sugar free hazelnut syrup. Again, not as good as Nutella, but 1/2 the calories. Don’t buy Nutella anymore, but I love it.

bearcountrygg on 11/23/2021:
I'm a peanut butter fanatic that is allergic to it....it may someday be my demise.....but I will die happy!!! Nutella just doesn't call my name.


Jacky82020 on 11/23/2021:
You eat PB & you’re allergic to it? Are you nuts? LOL

I bought a large jar of a generic Nutella once. Excellent! So excellent I tossed it in the trash can after a week of overindulgence.

bearcountrygg on 11/23/2021:
Yes,,,,,,and yes,,,,,and yes!


Jacky82020 on 11/23/2021:
What happens?

I’m only allergic to some pollens. Controllable by antihistamines.

bearcountrygg on 11/23/2021:
Nothing really......but it gave a strong reaction on the injection test........Banana and tree nuts were also very reactive.....Banana and walnuts used to blister my mouth...but not anymore. A plant called pig weed is highly reactive as well.......also dust and cats...I got allergy shots weekly for a long time until they started causing an asthma attack.....since then...I just live with it....


Horn_of_plenty on 11/23/2021:
did you have enough fat on the days you had eggs, veggies, and 0% yogurt?

yummm corn muffins. i told my coworkers i'd bring in the rest of my muffins tomorrow to work lol...

sounds like the plan is going very well for you :)

and nobody can live on only eggs, veggies and yogurt ;)

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
There is fat in egg yolks....but balancing the points and cals so far is escaping me.


happy-1 on 11/23/2021:
A nutritionist would tell you that the whole foods (eggs, yogurt) are better for your health overall.

Garmin body battery would show a faster drop in energy levels after eating packaged foods.

A blood panel would show lower inflammation markers with consistently avoiding packaged foods.

Just some food for thought!

bearcountrygg on 11/24/2021:
Thank you for the inflammation reminder...I DID need to hear that...I felt better on the whole foods.........adding the lasagna and pancakes bogged me down.



bearcountrygg - Monday Nov 22, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

It is 24 degrees out and rained much of the night with very high winds......it can't decide if it's going to rain or snow..........just cold and enjoying the cozy inside. 

The news and what is going on is beginning to get to me..........and while I want to stay up to date about things I'm also beginning to feel the effects of knowing.......... ......I found myself last night looking at a Wisconsin  map looking for the location of many of my family members location as to the scene of all of the chaos............

Coffee and the news with D and considering on turning all media off...........maybe it's time to just get lost in a good book.......

 

 

pancakes= 9 pts and 296 cals

spray butter = 0 pts and 16 cals

walden farms sf syrup = 0 pts and 16 cals

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

 lettuce = 0 pts and 16 cals

tomato = 0 pts and 16 cals

green pepper = 0 pt and 15 cals

ranch = 5 pts and 129 cals

ff cottage cheese = 0 pts and 243 cals

air fried potatoes = 0 pts and 169 cals

olive oil = 1 pt and 40 cals

cereal = 15 pts and 300 cals

almond milk = 1 pt and 30 cals

============================================

Done eating for the day at 1,070 cals

 

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Donkey on 11/22/2021:
I just stop when it even starts to feel overwhelming. Blocked a post and a person on one my local FB groups because they went on and on about putting false stickers on gas pumps. Just really ignorant thinking.

I was very upset to hear that 5 people died in Waukesha. A *Christmas* parade of all things. When I went to bed, they had not said if there were any deaths. I was hoping not. I was wrong.

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
It is getting to me this morning....The little girl in the pink snowsuit dancing on the edge of the street as the car flew past....looked like our little Billie.....it wasn't but it is soul shaking......


Donkey on 11/22/2021:
Back to dieting - even though you may find that the points aren't working with the calories for you, I suggest that you stay with what you've been doing, because it seems to me - from over here - that it's working for you. Gotta go with what works.

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
The program is a worthwhile one for me.......


Maria7 on 11/22/2021:
You know what? This morning I just said "NO" to the news. Rather not know and have it on my mind, either. That way, have a happier day!

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
Me too.


Maria7 on 11/22/2021:
I just looked up the parade news and am about in tears.

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
It is pathetic........Apparently there will be a press conference around 1 or 2 this afternoon.....


Jacky82020 on 11/22/2021:
LOL! You chose your username wisely

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
Seems about right doesn't it!!!


Jacky82020 on 11/22/2021:
Yes! And bears look so cute in winter hats with ear flaps.

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
GULP!!!!!!!!


Jacky82020 on 11/22/2021:
LOL!


coffee&calories on 11/22/2021:
That made me laugh!!! LOL. I’m gonna be a bear too

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
Seems like the thing to hope for doesn't it? LOL


happy-1 on 11/23/2021:
Now I want to be a bear too!



bearcountrygg - Sunday Nov 21, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

Up at 5 this morning...as usual....coffee and the news with D.  Can't put the grocery shopping off anymore so will go out and do that this morning.  Luckily no snow overnight but it is 26 degrees this morning so it's very chilly. 

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

blueberry pancakes = 9 pts and 296 cals

Waldens farms syrup = 0 pts and 0 cals

spray butter = 0 pts and 16 cals

Lasagna = 20 pts and 529 cals

apple = 0 pts and 94 cals

Banana = 0 pts and 121 cals

============================================

29 pts and 1,058 cals

 

I see that I'm over my points again for the week....so the points are not going to be a reliable thing for me......The calories are what I need to focus on.........the question that I need to ask myself is do I need to stay with the program for the sake of the program or should I just count calories.........one thing is that the program is pushing me towards healthier foods.....I am liking the new changes really well.........I'm liking earning points...........I'm likeing the new zero foods they chose for me........I just can't put any failth at all in their total points....for 2 weeks I used more than I had....and yet I lost weight....I have a month to go before making the decision....but I like the new program......question is will I lose the motivation if I don't have it.....????

 

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 11/21/2021:
Yes, I would say it is quite chilly up your way, Friend. Be safe and enjoy your groceries shopping. Have a good day!

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
Saw some yogurt that expired 3 weeks ago!!!!!! UGH....had to settle for a container with just a couple of days left on it!!! Luckily it usually stays fine for a few days after that.....saw some empty shelves and some very inflated prices but I got the job done.


happy-1 on 11/21/2021:
Hugs. Drive safe and be careful out there.

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
Got that job done!!!


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
Dang, that’s chilly. Not sure about here that early. It’s 42.6 now.

Woke up before 5 as well, but stayed in bed & Tweeted until Matt got up around 6. He only gets up at 4:30 on workdays.

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
It's 32 now at 10:30......woke up to find the door on the barn open.....UGH!!! Everything looks fine.....no idea of what happened there that we didn't see before locking the house up for the night.


Donkey on 11/21/2021:
Looking back at yesterday's calorie count, it seems like your "heavier day" went quite well. More calories, yes, but not too many more. That's the way to do it!

I look forward to reading today's points :-) Keep up the good work!

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
I did go well.......I felt good and full......I'm not a big fan of that quantity of food but it worked out okay!!


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
45 here now. Busted put my hand warmers yesterday for Walmart & KFC

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
It takes a lot for me to wear hats or gloves.......I haven't worn them for years......


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
Oh, I love them! Even in California. It blows me away to see all these bareheaded gloveless people walking around shivering in below freezing weather. Sometimes wet too. Many huddle bent over, with their hands crossed to their upper chest like they’re going into cardiac arrest,

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
It takes a lot for me to put on a hat or gloves......in fact....I seriously hate hats....D wears them all of the time...looks like Indiana Jones....I cannot stand anything on my head....including barrettes or headbands...


bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
In fact I cannot stand anyone or a hat touching my ears...LOL


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
paranoid about skin cancer. Mom & grandma had it bad. Grandma on her face. Fished on the piers. Docs said hats may have prevented it. Mom gardened bare armed. Skin cancer on her arm. They excised a big deep chunk. Same thing. Docs said good sleeves would have stopped cancer causing UV sunlight.

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
D has had some removed from his head and nose.......so far I haven't had any...but I have more of an olive toned skin so I never have burned and only got darker as the summers wore on...so I don't think about it much but probably should.....but I SERIOUSLY cannot stand anything touching my ears...LOL...( hair is ok though)


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
I’m sending you great big ear muffs for Christmas! You’re gonna love them. You may have to turn sideways to get through a door. LOL

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
LOL...OH NO PLEASE DON'T...I will be forced to refuse the package!!!!!!! LOL


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
LOL LOL LOl

You coulda made pillows outta them!

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
LOL


Horn_of_plenty on 11/21/2021:
perhaps having a substantial breakfast may become somewhat routine for you, based on your entry yesterday.

great idea to make blueberry pancakes. did you just add your own blueberries into the mix? great idea for making extra, to have for the rest of the week. I should do this, rather than buy the frozen waffles and french toast sticks. i may try it after i use up my current resources at home...would save some money, too, i think as pancake mixes are pretty low priced. I need to get back into more cooking still, since i now have more time on weekends now that i'm not studying (which i'm glad about.)

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
No I didn't add blueberries.....it was in the mix...I made up the entire box and at the moment they are in a bag in the fridge and we just microwave them....if there are any left after wednesday I will freeze the remainder....all I had to add was a couple of eggs and some milk...They really are very economical....It reall didn't take long to cook them....I recently have seen a couple of people make pancakes by pouring the batter in a greased cookie sheet that has sides and baked them that way and just cut them into squares when they have cooled.


Horn_of_plenty on 11/21/2021:
26F !!! oh my!!!

well, if you are LEARNING new things thru the program and/or it's reinforcing healthy foods and you are enjoying it, i'd stay with it. sometimes just paying for something guarantees you'll keep doing it...

for instance, when i was taking a course, the only reason i finished it was that i purchased it and wasn't about to quit halfway thru...and i wanted to take the course. but money was def a factor..

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
It is keeping me on my toes......I will have to see how I feel about it in a couple of weeks...it is a good program.


Maria7 on 11/21/2021:
Jacky, I'll take those big ear muffs! I LOVE to wear headbands, hats, earmuffs. My Mama always loved to wear headbands and I made sure I kept her in a nice variety of colors of them. I wear them a lot, too. Just forward that earmuff package to me, GGBear! Smile!

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
Okay...I can do that......!!!


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
There’re yours, Maria! LOL

I love hats too! Wore a fedoras and newsboy caps in California. Some warmer ones here. One has attached ear flaps! Bear would love that!

bearcountrygg on 11/21/2021:
Oh no I would NOT!!!!!! LOL


Jacky82020 on 11/21/2021:
I can send you the kind with nice teddy bear ears on the top! You will be adorable! LOL

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
Maria will love them.......please send them her way!


happy-1 on 11/21/2021:
Do the program. Eat healthier. You will have more energy for the things that are important.

bearcountrygg on 11/22/2021:
You are so right Happy!!!



bearcountrygg - Saturday Nov 20, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

 Getting a late start today...............getting the hang of the new ww program.......and finding ways to get a minimum of cals per day at least.  Found out I'm not a fan of having to scout around and find just the number of pointed foods to fill out the day.....a couple of days I had a big breakfast and that made the entire day less stressful all in all.......I have never been a huge breakfast person and in the past sometimes it seemed like it  encouraged me to eat all day.....now it seems a bit different....NOW with a higher cal breakfast,,,it is seeming to make the rest of my day better....and cuts the too low calorie problem........

So I planned a higher cal breakfast......I'm full and I feel like since I am half way to my daily cal goal.....it will make the rest of the day easier..........I've been craving pancakes and putting that off........but this morning I made a whole pile of them for use over the next few days.......will see how this goes....I used to be able to lose well with pancakes and have zero idea why...it does not make sense but it's a thing...so regardless of their reputation.....it works for me ...so

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

Blueberry pancakes = 9 pts and 296 cals

walden farms sf syrup = 0 pts and 0 cals

spray butteer = 0 pts and 12 cals

3 eggs = 0 pts amd 216 cals

Lasagna = 20 pts and 529 cals

cereal = 15 pts and 300 cals

almond milk = 1 pt and 30 cals

===========================================

45 pts and 1,673 cals

No snacking because all three meals today were BIG......It was a lot of food but I really wanted to have a higher cal day....lately there have been very low days and I wanted to counteract that.....but won't make this a habit for long.

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 11/20/2021:
Every now and then, it does us GOOD to give in to our cravings...like your pancakes, for example. Maybe it is something your body genuinely needs at this time. Like you say...listen to your body...It is amazing how the Lord has made us...and I believe that with this are instincts on certain nutritions we may need that cause us to have cravings for them...it is possible, don't you think? Like for example...sometimes if I am craving ice cream...it could be I am needing more calcium...?... Anyway, congrats to you on how well you are doing. Have a blessed day! Maria

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
I totally agree 100% Maria..........it could be nutritional.....or possibly texture .....but following cravings have always worked for me.....I agree...if ice cream keeps coming to mind than you may need calcium.....


Donkey on 11/20/2021:
I am very interested to see if your big breakfast approach works. I too have never EVER been a fan of big breakfasts, BUT ever since I started adding more protein calories to my breakfasts, I have been feeling a lot better. And I don't want lunch at 10:30am, LOL.

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
I'm baking the lasagna that I put together a few days ago and found out that the oven didn't work...so it's been living in the freezer...and today it's in the oven.....at 11:30 I am still very full from breakfast...it was a hearty one...so the lasagna will be ready for D shortly bit I will wait for awhile.....I'm really trying to have the biggest meal in the morning, mid sized meal at noon and then just filling in the cals/points in the evening....and I'm kind of likeing it.


Donkey on 11/20/2021:
Good point about cravings. If we can manage them, then we don't go off the deep end with them.

I did that with ice cream. Saved up my craving, knowing that I'd have a BIG dish of it when we went away on our weekend together (back in September). That worked really well.

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
Yup...I have had to really think about cravings and rather it is a taste that I want or ( MORE THAN A TASTE)...or if it's a real craving that has need behind it....and I can now tell the difference.....if I ignore a craving for a couple of days.....or even more...and it's still there...I know there is a need behind it.....but any craving that pops into my head has to usually stand the test of time first unless it's a whole food and healthy....


Jacky82020 on 11/20/2021:
Lazy me hasn’t made pancakes in many years, but Matt buys microwaveable ones & they are yummy. He also gets frozen Belgium blueberry waffles. I never much cottoned to breakfast foods other than the occasional fast food breakfast sandwich. But I am forcing myself to eat more Fiber One.

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
It's been awhile for me to on the pancakes.....in the years of a full house to feed pancakes were on the menu a lot.....never met a kid that didn't like them....it has been even longer for waffles...I got one of those little tiny waffle makers to make chaffles and it's still in the box...need to get on that for the winter now.


Jacky82020 on 11/20/2021:
Yeah, I had a Belgian waffle maker too & donated it to the Salvation Army after limited use.

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
This tiny one is so cute...I need to use it.


Horn_of_plenty on 11/20/2021:
nice you made the fresh corn muffins. i bought some at the store that were surprisingly great. but nothing is better than making them at home :)

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
Either way...they were a nice change.


happy-1 on 11/20/2021:
Mmmmm pancakes. An excellent choice.

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
It's been a long time!!!


Brett on 11/20/2021:
I want a tall stack with blueberry sauce. And real butter.



bearcountrygg - Friday Nov 19, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

Deciding to not go shopping today again....schools all around closing for the day again....The regular yearly flu is complicating things around here......

Snowing daily now but no accumulation yet.......so do need to get out soon before it starts and just piles up until april 2022...........29 degrees today here........will walk bills to the mailbox and forget the trip to the post office too. 

Up at 4:30 , coffee and the news.

Almost reached 1,200 cals yesterday.....close enough

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

3 eggs = 0 pts and 216 cals

oatmeal = 0 pts and 300 cals

walden farms syrup ( sf) = 0 pts and 0 cals

green beans = 0 pys and 88 cals

lettuce = 0 pts and 32 cals

1 T ranch dressing = 2 pts and 65 cals

2 small corn bread muffins - 13 pts  and 320 cals

spray butter = 0 pts and 16 cals

unsweetened almond milk = 1 pt and 36 cals

cereal = 15 pts and 300 cals

------------------------------------------------------------------------

31 pts and 1,375 cals

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Jacky82020 on 11/19/2021:
Dang! 29! 39 here. Going to Walmart as usual. Continue to feel covid safe. We were vaccinated ASAP. Proud to say Pennsylvania has the highest vaccination rate in the country. Flu way down here too. We continue to wear N95 masks outside the house. So far as I know, only required in medical offices. Maybe half the ppl at Walmart wear them now, used to be required

bearcountrygg on 11/19/2021:
We were vaccinated as well....but vaccinated people are still getting it. We had low numbers for over a year....but since we are a resort town that many non residents come to to hunt and river raft...we get a lot of out of towners that bring it here. I still wear a mask and plan to continue to but I've come to the conclusion that I probably should only go out this winter when absolutely necessary.....we have some nasty respiratory flu going on here right now.......so we don't need that either.


Donkey on 11/19/2021:
Yes, I would agree that you did very well with points and calories yesterday! Stay steady the course! Your breakfast sounds yummy!

bearcountrygg on 11/19/2021:
It was a lot of food but zero points...hopefully that will he;[ get me to 1,200 today and within points!!! I can see it as a possible regular but boy was ot a lot of food....wasn't sure I was going to get it all down..>LOL


Maria7 on 11/19/2021:
Was about 44 here this morning, high to be about 59. So, for us that is quite chilly and we have the woodstove going, as usual, this morning. AC was on yesterday afternoon (the woodstove gets it really warm in the house and needed to cool down from the 80 degrees it was). Hope you have a good day. Happy to read that you got your oven fixed yesterday. Take care.

bearcountrygg on 11/19/2021:
I would love a woodstove...we had fireplaces in the past....loved those too....I miss a fire in the winter.


Jacky82020 on 11/19/2021:
A tropical heat wave, Maria!


Maria7 on 11/19/2021:
Your snow sounds so beautiful! I bet you enjoy watching it coming down! We don't get snow often here, so when we do it is a REALLY big deal!

bearcountrygg on 11/19/2021:
We have had some pretty snow days this year......so far it hasn't stayed too long...of course that will change and then we all get used to sliding around...on foot or in the car......


happy-1 on 11/19/2021:
Sounds like a good toasty day to stay inside.

bearcountrygg on 11/19/2021:
Yes it is...had to go to the mailbox and I found some carrots in the fridge to toss out for little animals bit other than that.......I'm inside


Horn_of_plenty on 11/20/2021:
boy is it cold by you. i do not even particularly remember the feeling of air as cold as 29F yet! here, when it's high 40's, it feels particularly cold! that's the coldest it's gotten so far...and tends to be windy on those days! we will get to 29, but not yet...maybe january or possibly end of december.

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
It's 31 here right now....


Horn_of_plenty on 11/20/2021:
my friend in france sometimes gets wifi issues too...i hope yours improves and furthermore i'm glad your oven is back in working order!

bearcountrygg on 11/20/2021:
Very happy to have the oven back.....so I made corn bread muffins...LOL....The wifi so far this morning is working but last night it was a mess.



bearcountrygg - Thursday Nov 18, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

 Up at 4:30.....coffee and the news, repairman cancelled tuesday and said they would be here today.....keeping our fingers crossed.  It would be nice to have a working oven.

WW going good, probably the most intense change they have ever made as far as I can see......it's a struggle to get in 1,200 with so few points and the zero point foods in this house are dwindling quick;y...BUT....Covid and a seasonal respiratory flu are rampant in this tiny rural county so the point that they are closing schools....so not going shopping today......weird fact....they are actually finding covid 19 antibodies in the white tail deer that hunters have brought in to the DNR this season.  

So....Staying in and  using what is on hand.  

Just very thankful that we have supplies here.

They have been working on the area WIFI wires again and we keep losing the ability to get online...yesterday was hit and miss...so far this morning it's working but they are also adding a lot of our neighbors on here recently and I think that is causing a lot of the problems but they were digging in the road here for the last 3 days so who knows.....I just get online as I can.

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

3 eggs = 0 pts and 216 cals

flat out italian light = 2 pts and 90 cals

1 T. peanut butter = 3 pts and 95 cals

motts no sugar added strawberry applesauce snack cup = 0 pts and 50 cals

Hormel XL Complete roast beef and mashed potatoes = 8 pts and 270 cals ( waiting for repairman and didn't want to make a mess in the kitchen)

Pineapple in juice = 5 pts and 120 cals

Ioast = 4 pts and 132 cals

spray butter ( 22)m= 0 pts and 18 cals

1T. Peanut butter = 3 pts and 95 cals

1T. Simp;y fruit spread blueberry = 2 pts amd 45 cals

==================================================

27 pts and 1,133 cals 

Oven is working again !!!!!   So happy about that...but wifi is off and on all day.......

 

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Maria7 on 11/18/2021:
Good morning! Are you planning to cook a Thanksgiving dinner in your oven? I hope they come today to fix your oven. I use mine a lot, almost every day.

bearcountrygg on 11/18/2021:
No...Not planning to make a regular Thanksgiving dinner...it will just be the 2 of us ...The kids are afraid that they might bring germs to our house since 2 of them are working daily out in the public.....one couple have been fighting the respiratory flu that has been going around here ( not covid)....and D and I both have problems eating turkey....it doesn't agree with either one of us...so we will just have regular typical meals that day.....it seems strange since for so many years it was all a huge gathering for holidays....but the times are changing unfortunately.


Donkey on 11/18/2021:
I too am curious to know your Thanksgiving plans. Like Maria mentioned, though, it probably depends a lot on whether or not you get your oven fixed??? YIKES!!!

I'm sorry to hear about the schools closing. Ours haven't - yet. Illinois numbers increased a bit but I haven't heard anything about closings. The number of deaths seems to be consistent and low, though, so that tells me that the vaccines are working.

bearcountrygg on 11/18/2021:
No Thanksgiving plans..,kids are afraid to bring germs here...2 are sick right now with the typical flu.....WE feel lucky that we have what we need here and rarely have to go out. The kids worry about us and are glad we aren't taking a lot of chances.......one spends 8 hours a day in their local school and that is about as germy as it can get.


Jacky82020 on 11/18/2021:
Blast that repair guy! Bummer!

Glad WW continues to go well.

bearcountrygg on 11/18/2021:
He cancelled on tuesday but he did come today...all is well!


Jacky82020 on 11/18/2021:
Yay!

bearcountrygg on 11/18/2021:
:)


happy-1 on 11/18/2021:
Hugs

bearcountrygg on 11/19/2021:
:)



bearcountrygg - Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

 Got up at 5 this morning.....and was happy that I got the cals to 1,200............I will never trust the ww alone.....there are too many variables.......still watching and reading reactions of other wwers........almost all are confused and almost all lost some weight which is keeping them on program....there are some crazy things in this mix........some healthy things that used to be low or no points are now high points........the program probably would benefit by a little tweeking.......but that won't likely happen.  WW/weight watchers always prided itself on being the diet that allowed you to eat anything as long as you have the points for it......I think they are working their way away from that and it's fine......it is about weight loss or maintenance......but that old motto is what brought many people to it.....the new thing is to earn more points by eating more non starchy veggies.........sounds like childhood.....eat you veggies and you can have dessert..........I have already heard the ww veterans saying if I eat this salad I can earn enough points for 3 cookies.....maybe that is okay......it often worked for kids.  Change is hard...especially when someone messes with your food.........

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

2 slices bread toasted = 4 pts and 132 cals

spray butter  ( 25 sprays) 1 point and 20 cals ( that is new,,now there is a limit on number of sprays)

2 T. peanut butter = 7 pts and 190 cals

1 T. simply fruit blueberry spread = 2 pts and 45 cals

2 egg s = 0 pts and 144 cals

 

split pea soup 1 cup = 5 pts and 120 cals

2  cups lettuce = 0 pts and 16 cals

1 cup raw carrots = 0 pts and 52 cals

radishes = 0 pts and 19 cals 

 

 

1 cup of oatmeal ( then added water and cooked ) = 0 pts and 307 cals

walden farms syrup = 0 pts and 0 cals

2 mandarins = 0 pts and 94 cals

roasted seaweed = 0 pts and 25 cals

no sugar added apple berry sauce = 0 pts and 50 cals

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19 pts and 1,216

 

 

I'm  changing my approach to meals today and had a point heavy breakfast.....I need the cals to at least reach 1,200 and I think this will help a lot....the struggle at the end of the day is not enjoyable for me to be left with no dailies and such a low amount of weeklies....BUT...the ability to earn a point by eating a cup of non starchy veg is going to be put into  play today and see how it goes....they are so low cal......but I could use them to eat something higher cal.....and the cups of non starchy veggies that earn points are unlimited.......I suspect I would be so full of veggies that I won't want the thing that would bring my cals up......LOL....maybe that is the plan??????

I really do need to get to the store but the creeping crud is going around our town...Covid as well as the yearly flu at the same time.....and schools are closing because of it....so I continue on with what I have here which is fine but not optimal for my zero point list.......I'm looking forward to potatoes, sweet potatoes, ff cottage cheese, more fage and eggs.........but it's fine for now.

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Donkey on 11/17/2021:
I still think that you should stick with counting points, along with the calories, for now. Both seem to be working for you, for now. Perhaps eventually you can let go of one of them.

I dunno how I feel about having a salad so that you (not you-you, but anyone) can have dessert. **I** do this, and I'm not sure it really works for me - at least not on a daily basis, as a habit. This is actually something I working now, having a more nutritious dinner, and then just a small piece of chocolate afterwards, so that I have protein and healthier carbs, rather than sugar and white flour (think title company cookies) or fat (numerous spoons of peanut butter).

I guess for something like Thanksgiving or a party, it would do better to fill up more on vegetables, so that you can have pie for dessert. Very interesting.

bearcountrygg on 11/17/2021:
I have to count both as long as I'm on ww.......right now I'm sticking with it....I did have a good weigh in and it is pushing me in a good direction....like all other wwers...right now I'm trying things to see what makes tolerable days.....it isn't hurting anything....I think filling up with veggies is a good thing, I wish they satisfied my head more though...LOL


Jacky82020 on 11/17/2021:
Karma is right! Listen to her.

The Switch book that relates a healthy life, disease risk reduction & longevity, to lifestyle, says to avoid starchy foods except yams. I made some nice sweet potato slices in the air fryer. Never did figure out the difference between yams & sweet potatoes. Look & taste the same to me. Need to google.

bearcountrygg on 11/17/2021:
I can't tell the difference in the either.


Jacky82020 on 11/17/2021:
I shall put the question to my technical consultant one of these days. She is all knowing.


Jacky82020 on 11/17/2021:
I shall put the question to my technical consultant one of these days. She is all knowing.



bearcountrygg - Tuesday Nov 16, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

Up at 4.....slept well and just laying in bed isn't going to put me back to sleep.  That's fine.....Oven repairman is due today and we need to pull the stove out and clean under it....UGH....Not looking forward to that and have put it off for the last 2 days. We don't have an appointment time and he will call when he is almost here....so need to be ready by 8 or so for him.

Yesterday's cals were very low but I don't want to eat when I'm not hungry so there is that......most likely I will have a higher cal day to make up for it....hopefully.   

The first weigh in for many was positive....mine included.  As wonky as this program is...it works.  It doesn't all make sense .....so many have taken the assessmnt over many times hoping to get the zero point foods to be what they want......I haven't at this point.......so far I can make do with this........my feelings are that since I answered the assessment honestly.....that this is the best for me.   If it continues to keep me content I can see myself ( when my contract with WW ends on Chrismas)...signing up for digital only ( that is all I use or need anyway)...and dropping the zoom meetings (don't care for them).......and getting a lower price and then possibly going month to nonth after that....will see.......I have plenty of time to decide.....I can see that staying on program even in maintenance mode can help a lot.....since it is easy to chuck it all and throw caution to the wind.......been there and don't want to return.  

 

EDIT

Knew it was too good to be true.....at 11:15 the repairman called and cancelled for today and said he would be here thursday....too many people with furnaces to be repaired......I get that...it's 35 degrees here.....and we can live without the oven for a few more days......

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

Fage 0% greek yogurt = 0 pts and 90 cals

Walden farms sf syrup = 0Pts and 0 Cals

3 mandarins = 0 pts and 94 cals

chicken = 2 pts and 90 cals

beef stew = 15 pts and 500 cals

============================================

17 pts and 776 cals

EDIT

I was not happy with the number of calories at all......and really wanted a cookie....and just went hungry for a couple of hours in protest of not getting the cookie...LOL

I was really at a loss for what to have that would raise my calories ...I still had a couple of daily points and a few weeklies to last through sunday...so I finally made a decision after watching a couple of you tube videos about the new program...it appears  almost everyone is agonizing over this...but many are sticking with it...we all did have a loss but the points are too few now and the zero calorie foods are so low calorie that it is hard to get a safe amount of calories per day........I decided to eat my 2 plus a few of the weeklies and at least get my calories to 1,200 for the day and so

I had

2 light flat out italian things = 4 pts and 180 cals

with 2 T of peanut butter on them = 7 pts and 190 cals

and

2 more mandarins 0 pts and 94 cals

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so for the end of the day I had 28 pts and 1,240 cals

I'm really happy to at least get the 1,200......cals....it did mean that I will probably run out of weeklies well before sunday but it also gives me more time to figure out some things that will work..........

 I haven't shopped since the changes......I will get potatoes, ff cottage cheese, fruit and more veggies...that will nake it easier......also more eggs...it seems like I lived on those lasrt week and they worked well, boiled in the fridge and were so handy........I was quite frustrated this late afternoon...all I could think about was a cookie....but don't care now....the flatout with peanut butter worked well...I can see my weekend looking kind of full of vegetables and possibly low calories.....

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Donkey on 11/16/2021:
I hope the repairman shows up today! Is not having an oven compromising your meal prep much?

Come work at my office for a day - that will fix any low-calorie days, LOL. I don't know if I would aim for a high calorie day. Maybe just see if you can reach your 1200 baseline. A gentle increase, rather than a spike. However, if your hunger leads you to eat a little more, then go with that.

If the WW program continues to work for you, as wonky as it may seem or feel, I like your plan for the future, with a digital month-to-month. What a wonderful journey you are on!

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
Me too...waiting for that phone call. I see right now that as long as I stick with regular foods I can stay on track....but for me now...1 granola bar or pretzel sets off a pattern of cravings...hopefully some day that passes...in the mean tine I will stay the course...at the moment balancing the points and zero foods is a challenge for me to get enough calories....I am enjoying it so far....but need to get that balance in check.


Jacky82020 on 11/16/2021:
Hate waiting around for repair guys. Not that I have a full schedule. still stressful.

Good going on the WW thing! You have plenty of time to decide the next step.

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
I'm just hoping he shows up...LOL....I don't like waiting either...one ear to the phone, 1 ear to the door......Yes...I know this works wonky as it is.....and I think I would be afraid to retake the assessment and find it worse...LOL


coffee&calories on 11/16/2021:
I'm curious about this WW program. Is it basically guiding you eat better foods through the zero point system? I can see how despite it being a little weird, would work. You won't overeat on high fibre, high water foods probably. If you balance that with low amounts of calorie dense foods, it would lead most people to lose weight. With all your knowledge on food/dieting, what do you feel you get from WW. I'm asking because despite knowing what to do, I still need constant motivation and guidance. are you the same?

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
I do need constant motivation and once I get into the groove I fear falling out of it.....( I liked the weigh in's the best)....Somehow this new program is choosing a few foods that the person wants ( healthy ones)...and makes them unlimited and zero pts....I suspect because they figure that is what happens with diets....plus there are other typical things like non starchy veggies.....that are also zero.....They are choosing according to how we answered the assessment....so it's different for everyone based on many variables. My daily and weekly points are very low now....so it can be quite hard to eat a higher cal meal/food....I will figure it out....right now I'm having trouble getting enough daily cals in....PLUS...for every cup of zero point veggies we eat...they add 1 more point as a reward to our points.....but usually by that time...I have some new dailies but no room to use them....(smaller stomach here).....I think it will get easier...I had a nice loss and I'm sure a part of that was retained water....but they have started counting fiber and saturated fats which they haven't done for years...to determine what points to assign foods.


horn_of_plenty on 11/16/2021:
regarding yesterday's entry for you, "blindly trusting WW," you have learned too much and have wayyyy too many tools in your pocket to blindly trust it. you can incorporate it into your pocket of tools that you already have and do well with. :)

i agree, whole foods are best. packaged never best.

i'm glad to hear you are having success on your plan(s) ...as that is very motivational for all of us here!

also, good luck with your repairs! :) let us know the (hoping very positive) outcome!

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
Very true...I will not ever blindly trust the pts only on WW...calories are really more important to me and to eat enough of them daily......it is pushing me to do better and I'm thankful for that...I need to be in the right mindset for it....now it is good....Still waiting on repairman...


Brett on 11/16/2021:
Hope the repairman arrived.

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
Nope...cancelled...now it will be thursday.


horn_of_plenty on 11/16/2021:
Living by you can be rough with the deliveries and repairs ! It is good you have your patience !

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
That is the way it is here...quite different from when we were in the city...but we expected it.



bearcountrygg - Monday Nov 15, 2021
(calorie deficit, WW)
Weight: 127.0

All in all there was a good loss this last week....and I learned or was reminded of a few things.........

As long as I stick with basic foods ( like fruit, veg, meat, eggs, oatmeal, even cereal)....I can stay on track........

BUT....If I add any little individually packaged thing ( like granola bars, pretzels, chips,cookies etc)...I crave more.....if I have anything around that goes in the toaster ( bread, bagels, english muffins etc) and can be covered with peanut butter...I'm heading down the wrong path.

I haven't made any kind of baked good yet but when I do I can imagine there will be the same result........1 bite and I will start craving it...not because I need it...but because my head wants it.

If I intend to lose weight  then I need to avoid those things.........If  I want to maintain then I need to have those around in very controlled numbers so that I can't get carried away with them.

If I want to lose they can't be in the house at all.

It seems like..................I can keep calories easly under control with just standard meal type foods but at the end of the day I haven't eaten enough calories for health........So.....at that point I need to raise calories.....and that is the time when I have sometimes reached for the mini packs to get the numbers up to at least 1,200 ...but then the desire to have more and more of that stuff starts the junk food ball rolling.

With WW lowering my points so ...much I need to find some low point or zero point higher calorie food....that will get the calories to 1,200 at least .........I'm thinking fresh fruit......That means frequent grocery store trips ....

I know I can't follow WW and just blindly trust it..........I end up eating 800 to 900 calories a day...not healthy at all......

I lost weight over the last week...I suspect water was a big part of that......I did go over my points because I guess I didn't eat enough of the zero cal foods........I will adjust that this week........There is a huge backlash against the new changes but when peoples ponts get cut in half in many cases ( mine)...it does cause a bit of a panic..........I see that it is encouraging me to eat more of the zero point foods and that is great all around...but they are so low cal that I can't reach 1,200........I need to figure something out.........I see people leaving WW right now in fits of anger......I'm still on it until Christmas and I need to make it work......There is still time to retrain my mind ( who is resisting)...LOL......I need to work the program and give it my best shot,....and stop the whining!!!!   Bottom line.....the original shock is over....There may be a tiny amount of grumbling......will try to do it quietly and and just  get over it.

coffee = 0 pts and 2 cals

3/4 cup Fage 0% greek yogurt = 0 pts and 90 cals

walden farms syrup = 0 pts and 0 cals

2 breaded chicken patties = 15 pts and 440 cals

3 radishes = 0 pts and 4 cals

1cup lettuce = 0 pts and 8 cals

2 mandarins  = 0 pts and  94 cals

ground beef = 4 pts and 148 cals

BBQ sauce = 3 pts and 58 cals

split pea soup = 3 pts and 110 cals

==========================================================

today I used 25 points and 964 cals

Not nearly enough cals but I'm not hungry so i'm not eating anymore.......But I did use all of my daily points and had several zero point foods...I will figure this out yet....

Progress as of today: 127.8 lbs lost so far, only -3 lbs to go!

Donkey on 11/15/2021:
Have you considered buying frozen fruit, like strawberries, peaches, blueberries? Fresh apples tend to keep for a while. I slice up bananas that are starting to get a little too brown and freeze them. I have not tried to freeze apple slices because we tend to go through them so fast. I hope oranges aren't too expensive this year...

Why are people angry and quitting? Because they haven't lost weight in the first week? Not to be harsh but I'm guessing those folks will struggle no matter what. Weight loss takes time and patience.

Oh boy do I hear you about baking. Putting off doing any of that for now. Next week, with American Thanksgiving, we'll have 2 pies in the house, so I don't need to be baking anything else. The struggle is real.

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
Thank you for the frozen fruit idea...I will do that if it keeps me out of the store every couple of days...I'm not a huge fruit fan at all other than bananas but that will work...Thanks Donk. People are quitting because they took so many points away from them and it has complicated things in households that have more than 1 ww member......recipes now are all different points for every person.....a lot of you tubers that make their living on YT doing ww recipes now can't post the points per serving.......some did gain this first week....some lost less than usual....I had my pity party...went over my points last week and am committed to staing within points this week and will just have to adjust.....it did work...although possibly water weight but I' m with it until at least Christmas so I will throw myself into it and see what happens.


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
Don’t understand why we generally lose more the first few weeks of a new diet plan. Has to be water loss & maybe because we’re very dedicated in the beginning & true to whatever diet plan & then gradually slip some because it sure ain’t easy.

Your basic diet sounds terrific. Matt eats a lot of fruit, I never much cared for it except bananas. Apples & citrus will keep in the fridge for weeks. Some good frozen blends of mango, pineapple, peaches etc. But I prefer vegetables & cooked. Never could get into raw. But now you have me thinking about celery. Wondering if I could dip it in lemon juice or hot sauce, nothing fatty.

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
Celery sure won't hurt any.... Every time I change my ways I always lose a decent amount...and I usually chalk it up to water weight....it is misleading but we don't need to carry a lot of excess water around anyway....and I totally agree.....the new wears off and the old habits slip back in......I keep hearing that slow and steady wins the race....sure isn't flashy but it is true...and a definite bore...LOL


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
Always been exactly as you describe for me!

Need to take a second run to Walmart. Buying celery for the first time in decades! Will be good & not stick it in the PB jar.

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
According to ww...1 cup of celery is 16 cals...and I'm not sure if it's true or not but I have heard that it takes more calories to chew and digest celery than it contains......I know it is one of the things that on this new personal plan...WW gives me a point to use on anything else for every cup I eat...I have some in the fridge...hopefully it's still good and we will have some for lunch if it is.

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
Had to throw our celery out....but had lettuce and radishes instead.


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
Yes, the 16 cal is for one cup diced. Maybe 6 cal per stock. Not much evidence you nullify those.

“ So, Does Eating Celery Burn Calories?

The TEF makes it theoretically possible for negative-calorie foods to exist, but there aren't any reputable scientific studies to prove that eating certain foods like celery burns calories, according to the Mayo Clinic. Although celery isn't a negative-calorie food, it's not one that you need to track too closely calorie-wise, advises Bonnie Taub-Dix, RD and author of Read It Before You Eat It — Taking You From Label to Table. "At 14 calories per cup, celery isn't a food you need to be concerned about," Taub-Dix says. "It's also not a magical food that will jolt your metabolism to make pounds pour off." The bottom line? If you're a fan of celery and want to reap the nutritional benefits, it's a veggie worth integrating into your diet. But the act of chewing it won't help you lose significant weight.

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
That debunks that old myth eh? I just had 3 radishes that came to 4 cals...LOL and a cup of lettuce was 8


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
I think so & I saw 3 others that agreed. One says you may burn 1/2 a cal, but so what? LOL Doesn’t much matter. I could eat the whole big celery thingy I bought today & it’d be well under 50 Cals.

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
OH yeah...celery won't have any weight gain associated with it....and it does provide vitamins and fiber.....plus it puts something in the belly! Plus plus....it gives you something to chew on.


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
I think so & I saw 3 others that agreed. One says you may burn 1/2 a cal, but so what? LOL Doesn’t much matter. I could eat the whole big celery thingy I bought today & it’d be well under 50 Cals.


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
Exactly! Haven’t tried any yet, but soon!

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
We were ready for celery today but the apparently the celery was ready for us a few days ago......will have to rebuy that.


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
How long does it last? Seriously, haven’t bought any for decades,

bearcountrygg on 11/15/2021:
At least a week and possibly more......I actually had to throw out 2 packages today........I had put the latest one under a partial package in the crisper drawer....and forgot about it ( we were eating carrots and tomatoes and today the partial package had gone bad and because it was on top of the newer pkg....I had to throw both out......because the partial pkg leaked on the newer one...( happens around here sometimes because ME...I get lazy and open a can instead of cleaning the fresh stuff......UGH


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
How long does it last? Seriously, haven’t bought any for decades,


Jacky82020 on 11/15/2021:
It looks like everything I say comes in twice LOL

I forgot about a cabbage and it turned white with some mold. YUK!

bearcountrygg on 11/16/2021:
It happens here occasionally...usually when I shop for too much produce at a time.



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